Kavanaugh's 1st vote: "to include citizenship question in census?"

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Cuddles, Oct 7, 2018.

  1. TJustice

    TJustice

    Using the pattern of argumentation you attempted to advance...

    No, your intent shows you are garbage.

     
    #41     Oct 9, 2018
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  2. UsualName

    UsualName

    Thanks, Gem. :)
     
    #42     Oct 9, 2018
  3. No, that is not the question at all, at least not for the Supreme Court. The only relevant question is, is it within the Constitutional authority of the Executive Branch? As was also the case with the muslim ban, the answer is clearly affirmative. In fact, there is no respectable legal argument for the contrary proposition. That case rests purely on policy preferences and politics.
     
    #43     Oct 9, 2018
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  4. There is a long common law history of treating corporations as distinct legal entities, with their own rights and responsibilities. There is no such history of treating illegal aliens as citizens. That is a concept the democrats came up with in the past few years when actual citizens stopped voting for them.
     
    #44     Oct 9, 2018
  5. TJustice

    TJustice

    Of course. Obvious point to business people. Great point to make to a lefty.

    Just about every Corporation pays income taxes on the money they earn (or records it as a pass through to a tax payer) . Do illegal aliens? Taxation and Contract formation are some of the main reasons our laws treat corporations as legal entities.

     
    #45     Oct 9, 2018
  6. You chose the questions you like.

    Try also asking whether the constitutional mandate may require lessening the count by eliminating illegals.
     
    #46     Oct 9, 2018
  7. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Ok, so your interpretation of what the founders were looking for is different than mine. What a surprise.

    The GOP has shown desire to making sure legal citizens are the only ones voting. I'm not sure how you can see this as "showing a pattern in their efforts to limit the vote and skew federal apportionment".

    In a society where there is very real infringement on the rights of citizens being doled out illegally (key word here) to non-citizens, adding the citizenship questionnaire to the census is a perfectly logical and reasonable action.
     
    #47     Oct 9, 2018
  8. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Why is it garbage? He asked how you could know the intent.
     
    #48     Oct 9, 2018
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  9. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    #49     Oct 12, 2018
  10. Poindexter

    Poindexter

    #50     Oct 23, 2018