Lets say we really default past the 17th. how does this impact joe six pack?

Discussion in 'Economics' started by prc117f, Oct 8, 2013.

  1. If it happens, short treasuries. Reverse the position if there is none.
     
    #21     Oct 9, 2013
  2. Joe six pack will not feel a thing. If he has a job, can pay his bills, and food prices aren't going up, a default will not matter to him one bit. Can't say the same thing for federal employees. They will feel the pain. This is a government bubble. The sooner government stop borrowing, the better.
     
    #22     Oct 10, 2013
  3. Bob111

    Bob111

    dunno about default,but here is a decent explanation(for joe) of an issue regarding debt ceiling debate(taken from some russian news paper):
    you walk in your home..it filled with s**t..what your gonna do?
    unclog a toilet OR raise the ceiling? :p
     
    #23     Oct 10, 2013
  4. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    :)
     
    #24     Oct 10, 2013
  5. Eight

    Eight

    that... that's about as good an analogy as we will find. Thank you for that, it's hilarious...
     
    #25     Oct 11, 2013
  6. mbbcat

    mbbcat

    Consider this

    The entire financial & business world relies ( foolishly?) on the borrower of 1st resort ie Treasury debt to back their operations & stow their cash

    IF the faith in the T debt is shaken or they do default, how do you see the banks, brokers, clearing houses, pension companies etc surviving ? Or the millions of businesses ( employers) that rely on the financial system to survive & operate ?

    IMHO there will likely be a massive run on the dollar, banks, savings etc which will have to be denied because the money simply is not there, this will result in chaos, riots & more, along with mass unemployment without social (in)security

    Of course the fed can print its way into oblivion even faster if they choose to - the effects longer term will be devastating - how will citizens react to finding prices for simple goods in the hundreds of thousands of dollars & a never ending race to catch up with runaway inflation? ( no I am not mad look what has happened in so many other countries that chose to `print their way to riches')

    Either way the `full faith of the us govt' will become even more of a farce than it is now - the farce will be the reality & chaos will ensure (as well as opportunity for a few)

    As for perhaps half of the poorer / smaller countries in the world that use USD$ as either a backstop or a semi official currency (because the people do not trust their own currency) their citizens will be particularly hard hit & it is not an exaggeration to say that great suffering, revolutions & wars may be caused by the collapse.

    Will all of the above & more come true ? maybe its best not to find out & for the `elected crooks' (ahem politicians) to get their collective act together & solve the deficits as well as the funding issues

    As the saying goes never a borrower nor a lender be - there is much wisdom in that.

    M
     
    #26     Oct 11, 2013