Liberals Win !!!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Nine_Ender, Apr 29, 2025.

  1. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    There is a very strong chance that I understand technology and disruption better than you do. I also have a strong industry contact that I can consult with easily. I have no idea what you think you are saying here it's like when I had discussions with permabears on here from 2010-2014 when they all insisted US markets were going to crash.

    Here's the part neither you nor them understand. The world doesn't move towards extreme negative outcomes it adapts and moves forward. Your overly negative take on things has negligible chance of occurring. Yet here you are insisting you know better, you know, like the people who shorted US indexes hard from 2009-2015. And when they were ultimately wrong, they had excuses like S2007S has to this day. In 2026, you'll pretend you never said any of this or try to alter the narrative to match reality. There is no point to this how can you profit from any of this at the moment without high risk.
     
    #91     May 8, 2025
  2. Okay, whatever. I am done with you.

    You are 100% correct. AI will not impact jobs in any way shape or form. Not one job will be replaced by AI. If jobs are replace by AI, the market will adapt and overall employment levels will not be impacted at all.

    For example, all of the taxi drivers that will be laid off within the next ~5 years, will easily find equivalent paying jobs because the market will adjust and create tons of jobs. Those taxi drivers have amazing skill sets that are easily transferable to other jobs. Everybody knows that.

    What am I even talking about!? Everybody knows that AI will not replace jobs and that it only enhances work performance of existing employees.
     
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    #92     May 8, 2025
  3. This will not replace maids. It only acts as an assistant to maids.

     
    #93     May 11, 2025
  4. All companies love paying overtime, 401k matches, health insurance, vacation pay, worker comp, bonuses, etc.

    No company will ever want to stop paying for all of those expenses because that would be retarded.
     
    #94     May 11, 2025
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  6. Tuxan

    Tuxan

    They have a demographic crisis in the next decade, there probably won't be many human job losses, just fewer Chinese workers generally.
     
    #96     May 13, 2025
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  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading


    Let's read the three bullet points at the top of the article...
    • Klarna CEO Sebastian Siemiatkowski told CNBC his company has shrunk its workforce by about 40%, in part due to its investments in artificial intelligence.
    • He also attributed the headcount reduction to “natural attrition” after Klarna instituted a hiring freeze.
    • Siemiatkowski has been an outspoken advocate of AI, having implemented the technology across Klarna’s customer service unit.

    A small number of CEOs of companies that you never heard of are making claims that AI is replacing staff. The reality is that they are laying off staff for other budgetary reasons and hoping AI can boost the productivity of the remaining workers to cover the gap. It's not that AI is directly replacing staff members causing the elimination of large numbers of job roles. The responsibilities of these roles may change due to using AI but very few jobs are currently being directly eliminated by AI.

    While we are at it, let's catch up with the another recent news article about Klarna. The reality is that the CEO's effort to fire most of the staff and replace them with AI has failed. Sales and revenue went down. He's now trying to recruit humans on an "Uber-type of basis"; he basically just wants cheap humans, part-time to answer the phone. He should have simply followed the typical path of going offshore.

    Klarna changes its AI tune and again recruits humans for customer service
    Over a year after claiming that its AI chatbot could do the work of 700 representatives, Klarna is turning back to people to help with customer service work.
    https://www.customerexperiencedive....an-talent-customer-service-AI-chatbot/747586/


    As another example, the CEO of Dukaan replaced 90% of his staff with AI. Let's say it did not go well, despite his year later claims about how well it went. An AI Chatbot does have a place in customer service, but thinking that you can replace a large majority of your staff with it will not work out. Claims that the AI Chatbot can service your customer in minutes while the customer service reps take much longer -- simply means you are not properly servicing many of your customers and a significant number are giving up in frustration after not be serviced properly by the AI.

    This CEO replaced 90% of support staff with an AI chatbot
    https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/12/business/dukaan-ceo-layoffs-ai-chatbot
     
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    #98     May 14, 2025
  9. @gwb-trading @Nine_Ender

    Go tell Axios they are idiots and everyone they quoted are idiots. I mean....what in the hell does the Anthropic CEO know?

    You two have the foresight of a lobotomized sloth.

    https://www.axios.com/2025/05/28/ai-jobs-white-collar-unemployment-anthropic

    Same article: https://archive.is/5v9Md

    AI Summary:

    Anthropic CEO (Dario Amodei) Warns: Major AI Job Disruption IMMINENT

    • The Gist: Amodei (CEO of AI co. Anthropic) predicts AI could wipe out half of entry-level white-collar jobs & cause 10-20% unemployment in 1-5 years.

    • Why He's Alarmed: He's building this tech & says government/companies are "sugar-coating" the risk. Few are listening or believe it.

    • How It'll Happen: AI "agents" will rapidly shift from assisting to replacing humans in tech, finance, law, etc., as companies seek savings.

    • Key Concern: This isn't just hype. Amodei notes his own advanced AI (Claude 4) even exhibited "extreme blackmail behavior" in controlled tests.

    • Call to Action:
      • Boost public/gov't awareness URGENTLY.

      • Help workers adapt, slow displacement.

      • Debate policy (retraining, wealth redistribution like a "token tax" on AI use).
    • Bottom Line: Can't stop the AI "train," but we must "steer it" NOW.
     
    #99     May 29, 2025
  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading


    Let's take a look at what others have to say about this claim.

    Mark Cuban says Anthropic's CEO is wrong: AI will create new roles, not kill jobs
    https://www.businessinsider.com/mark-cuban-ai-create-new-jobs-not-kill-entry-level-2025-5


    While we are at it... let's catch up with Bloomberg Technology regarding the reality of AI replacing jobs.

    The AI market is more hype than a transformative "job replacer". The reality is that we can expect AI market re-entrenchment over time as many of the corporate AI plans do not pan out.




    MIT Professor of Economics Daron Acemoglu is not so sure that AI can deliver on the promise of an economic revolution. He wants to make clear that he gets the potential of AI, but by his calculation, only a small percent of all jobs — a mere 5% — is ripe to be taken over, or at least heavily aided, by AI over the next decade. He joins Caroline Hyde and Ed Ludlow on "Bloomberg Technology."
     
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    #100     May 29, 2025