Liberals Win !!!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Nine_Ender, Apr 29, 2025.

  1. Why? Because they want to be the ones to do it?

    You don't even understand the politics in your own country. Stay in your special lane.
     
    #31     May 2, 2025
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  2. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    Alberta doesn't want to separate from Canada. That's a fact. Trump is desperate to make a deal with someone, anyone, of course we'll listen that's what deals are dumb ass. Why you think the mere talk of a potential deal is a win for Trump is beyond me. The man has a history of mediocre deals that he proclaims as being the greatest ever. This whole charade of destroying things then trying to fix them got old term one the only people fooled by this are clueless cult members like yourself.

    Canadians didn't waste their vote they elected a strong leader who is going to dominate Trump in any discussion. Sorry you can't fathom that but it's reality. Carney hasn't flipped at all, that's another figment of your imagination.

    The US has massive problems right now. Canada, not so much. Electing a competent person is part of that equation. You guys are stuck with a lunatic President.
     
    #32     May 2, 2025
  3. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Every newly elected leader of a country will try to make deals if they can with the United States because the U.S. is seen as the leader of the world in its currency, financial markets, trade et cetera...

    It's been that way since WWI even if a country really does not want to make a deal with the United States but is waiting for a new administration (e.g. 2028) to make deals with that new administration that's favorable for both countries without the bullshit animosity rhetoric from the prior administration.

    Regardless, the key is obvious from the Canadian election...the country is still united unlike after the elections in the United States. That's what trolls like smallfil greatly dislikes (unity) especially when they thought for sure there would be an insurrection in the U.S. when the Democrats lost but that did not happen too.​

    My point, trolls like that live off "division in a country" because they're angry idiots and become more angry when there's no division or very little of it in a country like Canada or Greenland who have united against a common enemy (Trump & MAGA).

    Simply, after the Canadian election...there is no real sadness about who has now been elected to lead the country and there will be no insurrection by supporters of the losing political parties...Canada is still united even without MAGA idiots south of the Canadian border wishing Canada would be divided like the United States of America.

    Nine_Ender, keep in mind that some of theses trolls are foreigners...not citizens in North America or not living in Canada/United States but they hang out here at Elitetrader.com trolling others who live in North America (e.g. wildchild).

    They do that because they hope the MAGA ideology (American nationalism, protectionism, oppressing culturalism, divisiveness, anger, revenge) that Trump seized on during the Obama years when Trump saw how well the economy performed while being lead by an ethnic minority...

    An economic performance that Trump still has not been able to top but Trump is good in sending the United States into the opposite (wrong) direction from his own poor decision making.

    Has Trump started blaming the U.S. current poor economic performance on Biden, Clinton or Obama instead of admitting he's the one that's fucking over the American economy ??? :rolleyes:

    If he has not, the worst it gets in the U.S., Trump will begin pointing the finger at past administrations.

    Europe, Canada and other countries investments in the U.S. has been declining as in "outflowing" from the U.S. to Europe...it should result in well-known companies in the U.S. announcing layoffs, less hiring, less diversity, downsizing in preparation for a worsening economy...

    Americans losing their jobs.

    Americans losing their jobs has always been a killer for politicians no matter the performance of the economy.

    wrbtrader
     
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    #33     May 2, 2025
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  4. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    Carney's not going to sign a deal just to placate the US. Trudeau let Freeland take care of the last one and she did well enough for Trump to unwittingly call himself stupid for signing that deal. Most are of the opinion that Trump will just renege on his deals anyways.
     
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    #34     May 2, 2025
  5. I meant the peace out but this was too good.

    Trump is specifically eliminating the US's reliance on Canada. Well played Trump!

    Canada’s leverage is rapidly diminishing.

    "Here’s the punchline: The US isn’t just punishing Canada, it is diversifying at record speed. Deals with Ukraine, Australia, Chile, and domestic producers are cutting Canada out. Meanwhile, Canada has no fallback."

    Donald Trump has outmaneuvered Canada’s entire intellectual brain trust.

     
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    #35     May 3, 2025
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  7. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    You really have no idea what is going on. You just buy every Trump sound bit like it's reality. And where did that get you other than negative GDP growth in the US and huge losses in US sales all over the globe. Your supply chain is getting destroyed as we speak. Enjoy the self made havoc and be thankful you aren't one of millions of Americans directly impacted by the trade war. If they held a election today, Trump would lose. Didn't take long :).
     
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    #37     May 4, 2025
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    These minerals are a tiny portion of Canada's natural resource economy. The bulk of Canada's natural resource exports are lumber, gold, gas and oil. Comparatively lithium, nickel, etc. can barely be seen in a pie chart of exports. Also there are plenty of other markets for these metals beside the United States where they can easily be shipped to.

    There also needs to be a recognition that it will take years to start the extraction of these resources in Ukraine -- which I will mention are mainly in areas held by the Russians.
     
    #38     May 4, 2025
  9. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    The Trump cult don't understand much. Given that China can just stop exporting anything to the US, it's going to hurt to have cut off alternate supplies like from Canada. And Carney is going to play hard ball with the US he knows that the US is vulnerable right now. We can wait it out Canada is not a poor nation. Perhaps some Americans aren't understanding that sweetheart deals and the goodwill between our two nations is over for now. Trump can keep telling his cult that we've been ripping off the US for decades on trade but rational people know this isn't true ( quite the opposite I'd say we should have bargained harder ).

    GDP growth first quarter was +1.7% in Canada and -0.1% in the US. The hard data is telling all of us that the idea that Canada is more vulnerable to a trade war then the US is overstated and possibly just wrong. I see two reasons for this. One, goods are needed everywhere whereas services can be delayed or sourced more easily elsewhere. Two, the US is taking on so many "enemies" that the coalitions are forming and new trade initiatives forming rapidly by necessity.

    More then likely Trump will cave to Carney but frame it as a win of some type. And Carney will be happy to let Trump think he won something. Trump needs deals desperately at this point a coordinated trade embargo by China, the EU, Canada would devastate the US economy short term.
     
    #39     May 4, 2025
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  10. smallfil

    smallfil

    The Ukraine minerals deal is bogus in terms of Ukraine having rare earth minerals at all. There is no evidence of that. It is more to give Ukraine security guarantees since, US is involved. No need for that now since, Ukraine and European NATO countries want to continue their proxy war. In contrast, Russia has rare earth minerals which the US can buy. Makes more sense for the US to normalize relations with Russia, trade with Russia including, buying rare earths and cutting the Chinese communists at the knees.
     
    #40     May 4, 2025