Lyndsey Graham puts on his big boy pants.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Max E., Sep 27, 2018.

  1. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Damn. Who'd want to remodel that dump?
    I guess it is CA. Probably worth $4MM.

    Edit.... I was being facetious... but holy cow....it is worth 3MM.
    No way I'd buy that dump for $3MM
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  2. Tom B

    Tom B

    READ IT: New Letter Released From Mark Judge, The Man Ford Claims 'Witnessed' Alleged Kavanaugh Assault

    Mark Judge, a high school friend of Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh, sent a letter to Senate Judiciary Committee Chairmen Chuck Grassley and ranking member Sen. Dianne Feinstein on Thursday again denying witnessing an assault on Christine Blasey Ford or any such action by Kavanaugh.

    Ford claims Kavanaugh sexually assaulted her at a "gathering" during their high school years when she was 15 and Kavanaugh was 17, though she cannot identify the location nor when the alleged event happened.

    Under penalty of felony, Judge again denied the accusations made by Ford. "I do not recall the events described by Dr. Ford in her testimony before the US Senate Judiciary Committee today. I never saw Brett act in the manner Dr. Ford describes," reads the signed letter.

    As highlighted by Kavanaugh during Thursday's Senate Judiciary Committee hearing, Judge avoids public speaking since, as a recovering alcoholic and cancer survivor, he sufferers from intense anxiety and depression.

    "As I stated in my attorney, Barbara Van Gelder's September 18, 2018, letter, I did not ask to be involved in this matter nor did anyone ask me to be involved," says Judge. "We have told the Committee that I do not want to comment about these events publicly. As a recovering alcoholic and a cancer survivor, I have struggled with depression and anxiety. As a result, I avoid public speaking."



    Senate Democrats urged on Thursday that Judge be subpoenaed to answer questions about the uncorroborated and refuted allegations against Kavanaugh. Their subpoena request was denied on Friday morning. "Republicans on the Senate Judiciary Committee rejected an effort by Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.) to subpoena Mark Judge in a party line vote," reports The Hill.

    Still grandstanding, several Senate Democrats walked out of a Committee meeting on Kavanaugh to make a beeline for the cameras.



    The letter can be viewed, here.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/3645...ased-mark-judge-man-ford-amanda-prestigiacomo
     
    #62     Sep 28, 2018
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  3. God, what a spectacle. He is angling for something and the truth had nothing to do with it.

    (Did you notice how small his head is compared to "lurch" that sits to his right? Any room for frontal lobes there??)
     
    #63     Sep 28, 2018
  4. Max E.

    Max E.

    Corey Booker is the biggest piece of shit in history, he has admittedly done exaclty what Kavanaugh is accused of and he feels like he is the one who should be the "Spokesman" for ford........ Sorry Statatory Corey, you aint going to become president.
     
    #64     Sep 28, 2018
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  5. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    I'll give her the benefit of the doubt on forgetting some details.... but there is one part that doesn't add up and bothers me.

    After the alleged incident which she so vividly recalls.... how did she get home after she ran out into the street? That would be something she would not forget... because its a huge part of the incident. And that would also nail down a corroborating witness too. She should remember that. She's either lying or it wasn't Cavanaugh and she doesn't want the driver questioned.

    And even more to that point... remember.... this was before cell phones (for kids at least). This is a big missing part of her story. Who's landline did she use and who did she call? Think about it. Remember she said "she ran down the steps and out the front door". And it was too far to walk home. 8 miles. This would not be lost in the fog of time, she can remember they "pinballed" down the steps, but she doesn't remember who picked her up or who she called 5 minutes later to drive her home? Hmmmm.
     
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    #65     Sep 28, 2018
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  6. piezoe

    piezoe

    Where can I see these affidavits? I didn't realize any of that had been made available to the public yet. You make it sound as though there are affidavits from other than Ford, Judge and Kavanaugh stating; "the events described by Ford involving Kavanaugh never happened with them as witnesses." That would be ridiculous if executed by anyone other than Judge.

    You have been implying several witnesses haven't you? But according to Fords testimony there is only one witness to the alleged assault. That would be, Judge. There is one accused, Kavanaugh. And there is one victim, Ford. You or I, or anyone besides Judge, could make the statement above as an affidavit, no problem: "The events described by Ford involving Kavanaugh never happened with [me] as [a] witness." But that would be ridiculous.

    Now if Judge signed a sworn affidavit with those exact words, I'd like to see it. It think he might have. But if a sworn affidavit from Judge exists, why then did Grassley keep referring to two letters, only one signed by Judge. Why didn't he mention the affidavit? Why didn't Leahy in his long statement this morning mention an affidavit from Judge, instead of only the letters? An affidavit would be far more powerful than the letters. Even more compelling would be Judges cross examination under oath. I looked for a sworn affidavit from Judge, but couldn't find one. All I could find was hearsay. I am not saying an affidavit doesn't exist, I'm only saying I couldn't turn it up after a Google search of a few minutes. Do you have link to the PDF? By now there must be at least one PDF posted by the boys in St. Petersburg or on zerohedge. :D

    Again, only one person could credibly execute such an affidavit as you describe. That would be Judge. Can you say for certain that Judge executed such an affidavit? Is your certainty based on reliable confirmation? Or is it based on hearsay perhaps from news or social media. Because i have reason to believe that such affidavit from Judge does not exist. I don't think a related, sworn affidavit exists from Kavanaugh either, stating that he did not sexually assault Ford , but it could. It would be consistent with his statements made under oath to the committee.

    The Senate, the American public, and you and I, are trying to get the truth from three people, and at least two of them have given us reason to think they are being evasive, and they have a motive for such. The third person would not seem to have any motive to be evasive. At least for that third person a believable motive has not yet been identified. But certainly there has been plenty of unfounded innuendoes. Responsible persons, trying to get to the truth, will of course ignore these innuendoes. I want to know if Kavanaugh is lying about a very serious matter. That is more important to me personally than whether he assaulted Ford as a teenager, as horrible, if true, as that must have been for her.

    Senator Patrick Leahy stated this morning some specific lies that Kavanaugh told under oath to the committee. However, Leahy did not bring up some additional lies that Kavanaugh told when questioned yesterday about the meaning of two things written in his yearbook. It would be impossible for Kavanaugh not to have known what the real meanings were. But he lied.

    Kavanaugh told little lies that millions of Americans, if they had been in high school at the time he was, would have immediately recognized as lies. If he would tell a lie so easily exposed under oath, would he tell a great big lie?

    The spectacle of the hearing and testimony has riveted my attention. At times I found it spellbinding. Now I want to block out the grandstanding, the arm waving, the accusations, the shouting, the rude interruptions, and go to the meat of the issue. Who is telling the Truth? Both Kavanaugh and Ford can't be correct. One of them is lying. I want the truth. Lets concentrate on what we know for sure and can confirm, and if we are uncertain, let's say so. ..
     
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    #66     Sep 28, 2018
  7. UsualName

    UsualName

    The committee did not get to see a lot of things considering Kavanaugh has been railroaded through.

    The evidence is sufficient. I’m sure you have summer memories from your teenage years you can’t pinpoint the date and exact location of. Maybe a concert or klan rally you really enjoyed. No?
     
    #67     Sep 28, 2018

  8. Railroaded? Hardly. One of the longest and most contentious hearings in history.

    Yet, even with the very lengthy hearing process, the hit job about Ford did not come up until after the hearing. Note, that Feinstein had the info since July 20 so it was not a matter of late breaking information. It was withheld as another "insurance policy" in case Kavanaugh did too well at the hearings- which he did.
     
    #68     Sep 28, 2018
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  9. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Senate Grassley read a signed letter from Mark Judge in open hearing this morning in response to Stolen Valor Blumenthal's ridiculous motion. -----Go boil your head.
     
    #69     Sep 28, 2018
  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    A well-written commentary. I obviously disagree with several of your points.
     
    #70     Sep 28, 2018