Maintaining Infrastructure Does Matter

Discussion in 'Politics' started by wrbtrader, Jun 26, 2021.

  1. Overnight

    Overnight

    Write this down too...Sinkholes form over time. A relative of mine had a home in Spring Hill Florida that succumbed to a sinkhole. It weighed a lot less than a huge condo building. Limestone, man.
     
    #11     Jun 26, 2021
  2. userque

    userque

    Such things matter to them as much as trigonometry matters to song birds.
     
    #12     Jun 27, 2021
  3. smallfil

    smallfil

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    #13     Jun 27, 2021
  4. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    The question now that I'm sure is being analyzed...are there other Condos that the Engineer firm that has identified to having major structural damage over the past years ???

    Further, were there any repairs done by the building owners after they received those reports that identified major structural damage and did they disclose the information to the residences of the building ???

    wrbtrader
     
    #14     Jun 27, 2021
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  5. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    As importantly, how much were the campaign donations to Rick Scott and DeSantis?
     
    #15     Jun 27, 2021
  6. I wouldn't say that maintaining the structural integrity of a condo building falls under the purview of infrastructure. Bridges collapse, yes. Roads and highways full of holes, yes. Airports out of date, yes. A mass transit system that's a joke, yes. A power grid ready to fail with every change of the wind, yes. But a building of condominiums, that's on the cheap ass and now criminally liable owner(s) of the building.
     
    #16     Jun 27, 2021
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  7. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Engineers down in Florida have clearly referred to it as a "structural maintenance" issue.

    Yeah, sure...next week they may discover the building was taken down by a car loaded with bombs that was parked in the parking garage of the building. Thus, major structural damage was not the cause of the building collapsing.

    Simply, its still under investigation.

    wrbtrader
     
    #17     Jun 27, 2021
  8. Of course it is the result of a structural maintenance issue, I'm not debating that. What I'm saying is the government(infrastructure plan) isn't responsible for maintaining that structural integrity. That is the responsibility of the building owner(s) to keep it within existing building codes and make whatever upgrades are necessary, wherever and whenever issues arise. They knew there were structural problems and did nothing. Now it may be that the construction going on nearby was a contributing factor in an already compromised building and that would fall on local code and permit personnel who gave their approval to do construction nearby while knowing the condo building had issues. None of that is infrastructure in the truest sense of the word anymore than if someone's home collapses due to structural problems.
     
    #18     Jun 27, 2021
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  9. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    eh, oversight bodies that approve soundness of a project/building can be considered part of infrastructure. If the IRS is defunded, they don't prosecute top earning tax cheats, if local inspectors are underfunded, they don't catch private property shortcuts, or worse, take money under the table
     
    #19     Jun 27, 2021
  10. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Again, as I stated above, I have no idea what happened.

    Deterioration? Could be. Very easily actually. The early 80's were the peak of many things in S. Florida. When cash is literally being carted out of FL to the north in semi-trailers packed like sardines full of it, I'm gonna say its safe to assume (the money) throwing up condos at a rate that exceeds the capabilities of the local municipality's building inspectors.... let alone paying his four kids college tuition to look the other way.... perhaps might have let some concrete mixes slip through the cracks.

    Not so much for any nefarious reasons other than the good ol' American bribe thing... but moreso the concrete plant cut corners, or they just sent out "whatever" to a bitching general contractor that wanted it now.

    There are dozens and dozens of architecturally specified concrete mixes... this is not you going down to HD and buying an 80# bag of quickrete and mixing it with water..... there's a gillion things to spec.

    So yeah, deterioration due to a shoddy mix on the pilings could EASILY be the culprit.
    They'll figure that out in a blink if so.
     
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    #20     Jun 27, 2021