Meet The Climate Denial Machine

Discussion in 'Politics' started by futurecurrents, Jan 8, 2014.

  1. jem

    jem

    those guys blaming man for the ice age are still making me laugh.
     
    #21     Jan 8, 2014
  2. Ricter

    Ricter

    You're in a good mood tonight. Nice to see.
     
    #22     Jan 8, 2014
  3. jem

    jem

    3 weeks of not working or trading will do that for a person. However, it is very hard to get back in the groove. I love putting on trades but this morning I did not even want to open up charts. And normally I would because my last trade was a pretty big winner for me.
     
    #23     Jan 8, 2014
  4. If this is going to happen and it's caused by co2 being a cooling agent like jem said, doesn't that mean we should cut co2 emissions?
     
    #24     Jan 8, 2014
  5. Ricter

    Ricter

    LOL, nice.
     
    #25     Jan 9, 2014
  6. jem

    jem

    that is a concern of mine.
    the system is dynamic and complicated. science does not know the net effect of adding co2 or other greenhouse gases to the system.

    So the point is we should be using tax incentives to encourage conservation... not wealth transfer.

     
    #26     Jan 9, 2014
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Maybe you are missing the sarcasm that man-made CO2 has nothing to do with global temperatures or weather.

    The climate alarmists are now searching for some magical way to claim "victory" now that it is clear none of their dire predictions are correct.
     
    #27     Jan 9, 2014
  8. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    So you'll be selling your over sized pickup truck and getting a hybrid then?
     
    #28     Jan 9, 2014
  9. Arnie

    Arnie

    Did you bother to read the article? He and others do not deny warming, they just think the "alarmists" (his term, not mine) are wrong about how much man is responsible for it and what the effects will be. One or two degrees increase isn't going to hurt anyone. After all, look how much we've warmed since the Little Ice age, an era that has encompassed huge improvements for mankind.
     
    #29     Jan 9, 2014
  10. mark2012

    mark2012

    The political denying machine or meet the political health climate pro lobbylist machine and clean energy lobbylist behind and politicans invested in.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_global_warming

    Vulnerable developing countries and developed country legacy emissions - Some developing nations blame the developed world for having created the global warming crisis because it was the developed countries that emitted most of the carbon dioxide over the twentieth century and vulnerable countries perceive that it should be the developed countries that should pay to address the challenge;
    Consensus-driven global governance models - The global governance institutions that evolved during the 20th century are all consensus driven deliberative forums where agreement is difficult to achieve and even when agreement is achieved it is almost impossible to enforce;


    Well organized and funded special-interest lobbying bodies - Special interest lobbying by well organized groups distort and amplify aspects of the challenge (environmental lobbying, energy industry lobbying, other special interest lobbying);


    Politicization of climate science - Although there is a consensus on the science of global warming and its likely effects - some special interests groups work to suppress the consensus while others work to amplify the alarm of global warming. All parties that engage in such acts add to the politicization of the science of global warming. The result is a clouding of the reality of the global warming problem.

    http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2010/08/solar-wind-power-groups-becoming-pr.html

    What it gets me is while the are pushing for cleaner energy and their political agenda in US while they slapping china with tariffs on solars


    http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2014-01/08/c_133026700.htm

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-...dumping-duties-for-chinese-solar-imports.html

    Than EU does the same :

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-...glass-exporters-with-tariffs-up-to-42-1-.html



    Is it about climate change, if it is about climate change how come the same politicians slap china on solar with tarifs for being cheap and dont allow fair game? The same politicians who blame developing economies and same politicians who are behind the global change agenda .
     
    #30     Jan 9, 2014