msty thread - YieldMax etf product

Discussion in 'Crypto Assets' started by johnarb, May 16, 2025.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    From any financial measurement perspective taught in MBA business schools -- MSTY is more risky than MSTR. By several orders of magnitude.
     
    #151     May 17, 2025
  2. deaddog

    deaddog

    Just the fact that WXY is promoting it should be a red flag.
     
    #152     May 17, 2025
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  3. wxytrader

    wxytrader

    Hey, I'm not promoting it... I'm just comparing results. I hope none of you bozos buy it so the price can stay cheap for me .

    Ask @johnarb how it worked out for him...he picked up a couple nice paydays.
     
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    #153     May 17, 2025
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  4. wxytrader

    wxytrader

    I'd ask for your money back if you're keeping 400k in Home Depot LOL.
     
    #154     May 17, 2025
  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Similarly all the individual stock dividend-focused income investments) in my IRA made between 1994 to 2011 (after I rolled over an under-performing 401K(s) with limited investment options from a previous employer(s)) have done very well. All were placed in large well-known dividend paying companies; CAT, JNJ, KO, MO, PFE, PG, PM, RCL, SNA, UNP, UPS, XOM, etc. have done very well. Over time they have been converted to Roth -- so it means consistent (and regularly increasing) tax-free income.

    It is interesting to note that some selections were made because I had good interactions with the businesses. For example Home Depot opened its first store in Raleigh in fall of 1994 on Capital Blvd. I shopped at that location, had a positive experience, looked further into the company and made the investment late in that year.
     
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    #155     May 17, 2025
  6. Someone in my group has this on in MSTR. 1W. 5/2 payoff within 1sigma. My structure but he traded it. 10K delta, 5K vega. Infinitely better than what the ETF guys are structuring.
     
    #156     May 17, 2025
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  7. johnarb

    johnarb

    I started this msty thread, imho, msty is a good investment as long as bitcoin is in a bull market

    bitcoin did not go below $100k for a whole week

    I trust bitcoin price for the next 6-7 months, which will benefit mstr share price for the next 6-7 months

    msty will benefit as its performance is dependent on mstr

    A couple of things I learned as a result of the discussions here
    • 93% of the msty funds are in short term treasuries, securities and cash
    • msty nav is currently growing at a very fast pace

    If one is invested in msty, it is important to keep an eye on the bitcoin and mstr price action, but msty does not appear to anywhere near a collapse, imho



     
    #157     May 17, 2025
  8. He also has it tied to stock.
     
    #158     May 17, 2025
  9. I will place this on Monday. I don't share the structure but I do something similar on index.
     
    #159     May 17, 2025
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  10. Seriously? The payoff, perhaps?
     
    #160     May 17, 2025
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