msty thread - YieldMax etf product

Discussion in 'Crypto Assets' started by johnarb, May 16, 2025.

  1. nitrene

    nitrene

    There is a new Defiance ETF MST which is a 1.5-2X exposure to MSTR and sells weekly calls against MSTR. Kind of a MSTU+MSTY all rolled into one. Looks like they use an equity swap for part of their MSTR exposure.

    These have weekly dividends which is kind of unique.
     
    #291     May 30, 2025
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  2. nitrene

    nitrene

    I thought of a good strategy if you want to collect these call premiums as dividends. Use some sort of indicator to alternate between MSTY & WNTR. You can use moving averages or support/resistance levels on the dailies.
     
    #292     May 30, 2025
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  3. mervyn

    mervyn

    The MicroStrategy Incorporated (d/b/a Strategy) perpetual Stride preferred stock offering is available to all brokerage clients with $10,000 or more in retail brokerage assets. The offering is of a perpetual preferred stock with a $100 stated amount per stock and with a 10% dividend per annum that is non-rated (NR/NR). Strategy has applied to list the perpetual preferred on the NASDAQ under symbol "STRD". If the listing is approved, Strategy expects trading to commence within 30 days after the date the perpetual preferred stock is first issued.
     
    #293     Jun 2, 2025
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  4. wxytrader

    wxytrader

    The only problem I see with that is moving averages are meaningless and there's no such thing as support and resistance levels. :)
     
    #294     Jun 2, 2025
  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #295     Jun 3, 2025
  6. wxytrader

    wxytrader

    $7 per share?????!!!!!
    I might get in on some of that...not liking the higher price though.:)
    @johnarb

    MSTR rally'd in May, so perhaps we can expect a nice fat div from MSTY as well. :)
    I don't want to chase that div, especially since it followed a huge MSTR rally, what happens if we correct for the next few months?

    Let's compare:

    With a $1,000 investment at current prices:
    • MSTY would generate approximately $110/month (at a $2.37 coupon)

    • IMST would generate approximately $137/month (based on its initial $7.01 payout)
    So IMST currently yields about 25% more income — but with much higher uncertainty.


    Look at that div adjustment lol.

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    Last edited: Jun 3, 2025
    #296     Jun 3, 2025
  7. johnarb

    johnarb

    First imst distribution was for 9 weeks, going forward, it's going to be 4 weeks, I'm staying with msty with proven record over 1 year

    In the OP of this thread, the interview with the msty fund managers explain why they do not do weekly distributions.

    YieldMax has other ETF's that provide weekly distributions
     
    #297     Jun 4, 2025
  8. wxytrader

    wxytrader


    MSTY
    just announced :)

    YieldMax® MSTR Option Income Strategy ETF

    $1.4707
     
    #298     Jun 4, 2025
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  9. Yeah, the divs are getting anemic. If you were smart you'd time the spot purchase based upon drops in BTC/MSTR + increase in vola.
     
    #299     Jun 9, 2025
  10. wxytrader

    wxytrader

    So buy the dip? :)
    I expect the dividend to avg around 2.43 over the year but am quite content with lower. If btc corrects for the next 6 months, it will be a buying opportunity. That's the great thing about compounding in a stock that has natural NAV decay and div adj...you continue to DRIP at low prices for maximum income. :)

    My spreadsheet shows a 5k investment compounded for the next 24 months, with projected yields would produce an income of $4062 per month on month 24.
     
    Last edited: Jun 9, 2025
    #300     Jun 9, 2025