msty thread - YieldMax etf product

Discussion in 'Crypto Assets' started by johnarb, May 16, 2025.

  1. wxytrader

    wxytrader

    Yeah the way I look at it, if I lose 50% of capital to maintain high yield, then its all good. It is almost expected to be sustainable. It hasn't worked out like that however, as according to my spreadsheet, if you bought msty at launch your position would be:

    Start date 22-Feb-2024 10-Jun-2025
    Price 21.19
    Investment $100,000
    Shares 4,719
    Unrealized gains/loss $94.38
    Dividends received $181,069.37
    Yield 181.07%
    NAV $281,164
    Monthly income $12,071.29
    (No drip)


    Even if you bought at the highs:

    Start date 28-Mar-2024 10-Jun-2025
    Price 42.99
    Investment $100,000
    Shares 2,326
    Unrealized gains/loss -$50,662.94
    Dividends received $89,250.06
    Yield 89.25%
    NAV $138,587
    Monthly income $5,950.00
    (No drip)


    However if you bought at the recent highs

    Start date 20-Nov-2024 10-Jun-2025
    Price 44.40
    Investment $100,000
    Shares 2,252
    Unrealized gains/loss -$52,229.73
    Dividends received $41,354.50
    Yield 41.35%
    NAV $89,125
    Monthly income $5,169.31
    (No drip)

    So as usual, timing is everything. :)
     
    Last edited: Jun 10, 2025 at 8:15 AM
  2. johnarb

    johnarb

    How about some preferred stocks? The best performing kind

    Some mstr bulls are treating STRK and STRF as guaranteed risk-free alternative to US Treasuries with 8% and 10% yields

    Unfortunately the fixed income investors, are starting to figure it out, some mstr bulls are saying these things will eventually yield less than US 30yr Tresuries

    They are up 20-30% the past few months, trading above par and still going up, the preferred shares price go up, the effective yields go down

    As an aside, they were designed using AI

    new one that's about to come out is STRD, the "junk" bond version of the mstr preferred stocks, due to non-guaranteed dividends


     
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  3. VicBee

    VicBee

    Sure, but the yields are out of this world, doing nothing!
     
  4. wxytrader

    wxytrader

    Yes and that's what the sheet shows...even in worst case scenario your NAV would only be down 11%