msty thread - YieldMax etf product

Discussion in 'Crypto Assets' started by johnarb, May 16, 2025.

  1. VicBee

    VicBee

    I won't miss the dividend, it's on 07/30.
     
    #381     Jul 19, 2025
  2. wxytrader

    wxytrader

    So bought prior to the last dividend? What price?
     
    #382     Jul 19, 2025
  3. demoncore

    demoncore

    This thread is clinically ID.
     
    #383     Jul 19, 2025
  4. VicBee

    VicBee

    Entered@21.5, exited@22. Friday closed 21.7 with 8 trading days to go before next div. During this period I used my cash to trade the rising market and came ahead, even if MSTY was at 23 today. So all good.
     
    #384     Jul 19, 2025
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  5. wxytrader

    wxytrader

    So basically you would have made 2x more just holding msty since the previous dividend or 10x more just holding since Jan... This is false economy.
     
    #385     Jul 20, 2025
  6. VicBee

    VicBee

    Sorry, I must not explain myself well... Even if MSTY is at 23 by next div I'm still ahead, selling when I did and trading the market for the past couple of weeks. Right now it's at 21.7 and sliding.
     
    #386     Jul 20, 2025
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  7. nitrene

    nitrene

    Unless MSTR is just resting, there does seem to be a problem. As @demoncore has said previously MSTR is losing its volatility and thus the vol-linked dividend on MSTY.

    It seems like you are better off using this strategy on securities where the volatility is increasing like COIN or HOOD.

    I looked at the return of MSTR vs. IBIT and if you go back to Jan 2024 when IBIT first started MSTR is still up 4.6X vs. IBIT but its excess returns have all but dissipated. Its basically a 1:1 return now vs. IBIT.
    MSTR IBIT returns
    18m 778 170
    15m 237 87
    12m 138 74
    9m 98 76
    6m 8.8 10.4
    3m 33.2 34.1
    1m 14.7 13.1
    1w -2.6 -0.8

    It's been a dog for quite awhile now.It seems it never really recovered from the blow off top on Nov 21, 2024. Since Nov 21, 2024 MSTR has unperformed IBIT by 28%, -1.7% vs. 26.5%.

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    #387     Jul 20, 2025
  8. demoncore

    demoncore



    They ignored my warning then took credit for it while seeing their div drop 50%.
     
    #388     Jul 20, 2025
  9. wxytrader

    wxytrader

    Just announced! YMAX

    YieldMax® Universe Fund of Option Income ETFs
    Weekly

    YMAX
    $0.1838
    :)
    ___________________________________________

    Just announced! CONY

    YieldMax® COIN Option Income Strategy ETF

    Every 4
    weeks

    $0.7951
    :)
    ____________________________________________

    MSTY on deck! :)

    Should I start a YMAX topic? A CONY topic? Can we have a Yieldmax category @Baron?
     
    Last edited: Jul 23, 2025
    #389     Jul 23, 2025
  10. wxytrader

    wxytrader


    Come on people...stay in your lane. I mathed out future divs on my sheet long before any of you chimed in. Of course divs will drop when IV drops. I was trolling @johnarb for months that MSTR was not as volatile compared to previous runs...dilution being the main issues, and bitcoin fatigue being the other.
     
    Last edited: Jul 23, 2025
    #390     Jul 23, 2025