Why is it that you insist on posting things the way you remember them, or the way alex jones has recounted them to you, rather than checking to see if you've got your facts straight? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paula_Jones I wouldn't be jumping on you like this, except that you've a pattern of posting stuff that is just plain wrong.
what significant facts were inconsistent or wrong? was it the timing? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paula_Jones Background[edit] According to Jones's account, on May 8, 1991, she was escorted to Clinton's (then Governor of Arkansas) room in the Excelsior[5][6][7] (now Little Rock Marriott) Hotel in Little Rock, Arkansas, where he propositioned and exposed himself to her. She claimed she kept quiet about the incident until 1994, when a David Brock story in the American Spectator magazine printed an account. Jones filed a sexual harassment suit against Clinton on May 6, 1994, two days before the expiration of the three-year statute of limitations, and sought $750,000 in damages.[8] Initial lawsuit[edit] Jones was initially represented by Gilbert Davis and Joseph Cammarata, two Washington, D.C.-area lawyers. Susan Carpenter-McMillan, a California conservative commentator, became her press spokesperson. Carpenter-McMillan wasted no time bringing the issue to the press, calling Clinton "un-American", a "liar", and a "philanderer" on Meet the Press, Crossfire, Equal Time, Larry King Live, Today, The Geraldo Rivera Show, Burden of Proof, Hannity & Colmes, Talkback Live, and other shows. "I do not respect a man who cheats on his wife, and exposes his penis to a stranger", she said.[9] Judge Susan Webber Wright granted President Clinton's motion for summary judgment, ruling that Jones could not demonstrate that she had suffered any damages. As to the claim of intentional infliction of emotional distress, Wright ruled that Jones failed to show that Clinton's actions constituted "outrageous conduct" as required of the tort, alongside not showing proof of damages caused by distress.[10] Jones appealed the dismissal to the United States Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit, where, at oral argument, two of the three judges on the panel appeared sympathetic to her arguments.[3] Clinton and his defense team then challenged Jones' right to bring a civil lawsuit against a sitting president for an incident that occurred prior to the defendant becoming president. The Clinton defense team took the position that the trial should be delayed until the president was no longer in office, because the job of the president is unique and does not allow him to take time away from it to deal with a private civil lawsuit. The case went through the courts, eventually reaching the Supreme Court on January 13, 1997. On May 27, the Supreme Court unanimously ruled against Clinton, and allowed the lawsuit to proceed.[5] Clinton dismissed Jones's story and agreed to move on with the lawsuit.[11] On August 29, 1997, Jones' attorneys Davis and Cammarata asked to resign from the case, believing the settlement offer they had secured, which Jones refused, was the appropriate way to end the case.[12] In September, Judge Wright accepted their request.[8] Jones was then represented by the Rutherford Institute, a conservative legal organization, and by a Dallas law firm. Carpenter-McMillan continued to serve as Jones' spokesperson. In December 1997, Jones reduced the damages sought in her suit against Clinton to $525,000 and agreed to remove Clinton's co-defendant and former bodyguard, Danny Ferguson, from the suit.[8] On April 2, 1998, before the case could reach trial,[13] Judge Wright granted President Clinton's motion for dismissal, ruling that Jones could not show that she had suffered any damages.[13] Jones soon appealed the dismissal to the United States Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit.[3] Conclusion of case[edit] On November 13, 1998, Clinton settled with Jones for $850,000, the entire amount of her claim, but without an apology, in exchange for her agreement to drop the appeal. Robert S. Bennett, Clinton's attorney, still maintained that Jones's claim was baseless and that Clinton only settled so he could end the lawsuit and move on with his life.[3] In March 1999, Judge Wright ruled that Jones would get only $200,000 from the settlement and that the rest of the money would pay for her legal expenses.[14] Before the end of the entire litigation, her marriage broke apart. She also appeared in the news media to show the results of a makeover [15] and of a Rhinoplasty paid for by a donor.[16] In April 1999, Judge Wright found Clinton in civil contempt of court for misleading testimony in the Jones case. She ordered Clinton to pay $1,202 to the court and an additional $90,000 to Jones's lawyers for expenses incurred,[17][18][19] far less than the $496,000 that the lawyers originally requested.[19] Wright then referred Clinton's conduct to the Arkansas Bar Association for disciplinary action, and on January 19, 2001, the day before Clinton left the office of president, he entered into an agreement with the Arkansas Bar and Independent Counsel Robert Ray under which Clinton was stripped of his license to practice law in Arkansas for a period of five years.[20][21] His fine was paid from a fund raised for his legal expenses.
Dude, the page you link actually nails my point on the head. Look at what I posted and what I pulled straight from YOUR source. I would say my memory is pretty spot on. I wrote "No, when Bill Clinton committed perjury it had nothing to do with Ken Starr and it was before Ken Starr was even in the picture. Clinton committed perjury in the case brought forward by Paula Jones. Jones' lawyer wanted to establish an pattern of behavior by Clinton and he was asked about his interactions with Monica during the trial. Clinton was asked about it under oath and he lied about it, plain and simple. Clinton knew his goose was cooked in that case and ended up settling for $850,000, a hefty sum for someone who the media claims did nothing wrong. You almost never hear about this settlement in the media, do you?" YOUR article says. "Jones's lawyers decided to show to the court a pattern of behavior by Clinton that involved his allegedly repeatedly becoming sexually involved with state or government employees. Jones's lawyers therefore subpoenaed women they suspected Clinton had had affairs with, one of whom was Monica Lewinsky. In his deposition for the Jones lawsuit, Clinton denied having "sexual relations" with Monica Lewinsky. Based on testimony provided by Linda Tripp, which identified the existence of a blue dress with Clinton's semen on it, Kenneth Starr concluded that Clinton's sworn testimony was false and perjurious." "On November 13, 1998, Clinton settled with Jones for $850,000, the entire amount of her claim" WHATS THE PROBLEM?
He said Starr wasn't even in the picture. But he was very much in the picture by the time Lewinsky came along, and it was Starr who concluded that Clinton had perjured himself in answering questions about his relationship with Lewinsky. And it was that perjury, as determined by Starr, that led to the Impeachment. Independent Counsels Kenneth Starr, and Robert Ray relating to the suicide of Vince Foster, the Whitewater scandal, Travelgate, Filegate, and later the Lewinsky scandal, 1994-2001
Dude, Clinton perjured himself in the Paula Jones. Ken Starr was not working on the Paula Jones case and had absolutely nothing to do with the Paula Jones case.
It was perjury in the questioning of Bill Clinton in regard to the Lewinsky affair that led to the impeachment, and Ken Starr was very much in that picture. from Wiki: During the deposition in the Jones case, Clinton was asked, "Have you ever had sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky, as that term is defined in Deposition Exhibit 1, as modified by the Court?" The judge ordered that Clinton be given an opportunity to review the definition. It said that "a person engages in sexual relations when the person knowingly engages in or causes contact with the genitalia, anus, groin, breast, inner thigh, or buttocks of any person with an intent to arouse or gratify the sexual desire of any person".[26][27][28] Clinton flatly denied having sexual relations with Lewinsky.[29] Later, at the Starr Grand Jury, Clinton stated that he believed the definition of sexual relations agreed upon for the Jones deposition excluded his receiving oral sex. It was upon the basis of this statement that the perjury charges in his impeachment were drawn up. Clinton was impeached by the House of Representatives on December 19, 1998, on charges of perjury and obstruction of justice. But despite Republican control of the Senate, Republicans were unable to muster the required two-thirds supermajority to convict or even simple majority, with 50 Senators voting guilty on the obstruction charge and 45 senators voting guilty on the perjury charge. Incidentally, Clinton settled with Jones.
Ken Starr was in the picture before Monica got involved with Bubba but he was acting as independent counsel to look into the whitewater scandal and the death of vince foster. Later when it was clear that he was not going to be able get anything on bubba in the areas assigned to him, he used his broad scope of powers to do a full witch hunt and took it upon himself to review all the civil litigation that bubba had been involved in or had come up just to see if he could find something on him. This is how a witch hunt works. We are seeing that dynamic right as we speak. As I said the other day, it would not surprise me a bit to see Mueller try to get an indictment on Ivanka for mislabeling the ingredients in her skin care products.
This is inaccurate in that it wasn't his testimony specifically in regard to his alleged affair with Paula Jones, though he may very well have perjured himself there as well. It was during the Paula Jones case that Clinton was asked about his affair with Lewinsky, and that is the testimony that a Ken Starr grand jury found to be perjurous and led to Clinton's impeachment. Ken Starr was indeed very much in the picture.
So explain to us how he "was indeed very much in the picture" -- what is the exact role of Ken Starr in the Paula Jones case? Was he the attorney for the plaintiff, was he the judge, was he an assigned counsel of any type, was he a witness, was he present in court, did he file the legal paper-work? What was the exact role of Ken Starr that makes you say he was very much in the picture of the Paula Jones case. Starr did nothing more than pick up and read the Paula Jones legal transcript after the fact.