Multi-display cloud desktop - zero client / virtualization

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by Baywolf, Oct 27, 2014.

  1. Baywolf


    I am looking for a service that offers a cloud desktop that supports multi-display. I have read of in-house solutions that make use of PCoIP and zero clients for organizations, but I am looking for a similar service that caters to individuals on a subscription basis. I have found plenty of cloud desktop service providers but none of them support multi-display monitors which is what I am looking for.

    Are any of you doing something similar, know of any cloud providers that offer what I am looking for?
  2. jb3398


    The last thing you want is a cloud desktop while trading. What if their service goes down while executing or getting out of a bad trade. Preserver your bandwidth for order executions.
  3. Baywolf


    Actually, most paid cloud services have listed SLA's of 99.95-99.999% uptime because they can eliminate single points of failure.

    My home internet connection on the other hand is hardly reliable. Nor do I scalp intraday so getting out of a 'bad trade' is not really an issue for me.
  4. jb3398


    Where did you read they have a 99.9% uptime from their website ?!?!?

    I've managed cloud services, service lacks compatibility with latest updates. If your software has an issue you have to wait for their techs to resolve your issue. Good luck on finding an expeditious resolution.

    If your home internet service unreliable the last thing you need is a cloud computer?!?!

    Can you imagine trying to execute, send & receive files and print using strictly bandwidth. I don't know if your were just posting just to be posting. However cloud computing while trading or doing anything for that matter is the last thing you should be doing. Your info is out there and if you think they can't monitor your mouse clicks think again !!!
  5. Baywolf


    No need to be sensational. I understand the pro's and con's of cloud computing.

    I am simply looking to see if any traders here utilize cloud desktops for trading purposes, and if so any one using multi-monitor setups.
  6. jb3398


    I wasn't trying to be sensational, however the multi-monitor setup is based on your hardwares capability not the cloud infrastructure. Besides cheaper to pay for faster bandwidth than it is to maintain a cloud computer. Your storage is restricted, bogged down by system changes, they can confiscate your file if they deem it violates copyright, etc etc etc. RUN !!!!!!!!!!!!
  7. IMO, not worth it.

    Cloud Virtual Desktops have the additional overhead costs of the VMware/Citrix license, then factor in that you're in a multitenant environment. Multitenant is slow, sometimes VERY slow, and zero guarantee of disk IOP and CPU. Plus you have no COS over residential Internet and will have SSL overhead.

    Real benefit of VDS is for large corps that need to deploy standardized desktops and reduce cost via zero clients or BYOD, and use multitenant architecture to pool unused resources across the entire organization.

    For the retail trader at home, VDS is taking 15 steps back.

    However any provider/host supporting Vmware view or Xen App/Desktop should support multimon.
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  8. Baywolf


    Thanks dividend. The whole enterprise thing makes sense. I read about a partnership with Nvidia Google and VMware for 'high performance' desktops. I didnt see anything about Windows but the concept makes sense. I imagine there are a population of people that would rather not deal with buying/upgrading computers every 2-3 years and just have all the computing power on the network delivered to a screen. Much the same way people would rather have cloud storage vs a USB drive. Sure the USB drive is cheaper, but its all about the convenience factor.
  9. jb3398


    VDS is not a cost saving measure. I worked for a Government office that purchased VDS because an inexperienced Administrator pitched it as a cost savings measure over Desktop upgrades that took place every 5 yrs. Each machine cost us $300 a year to rent with 2 gigs of ram. Windows 7 64bit requires a minimum of 4 gigs of ram. At 2 gigs of ram we were using 80% of our resources, with no apps running. To get to 4gigs of ram, each gig would cost $100 more annually, so our price would have went up to $500 a year per VDM, just to meet recommended specs. This particualr office was currently deploying 300 vdms' at $300 a pop in annual rentals, spending $90,000 a year. Explain to me how this measure saves money. Our newest Desktop at the office was about 7 yrs old. So in other words they purchased a machine 7 yrs ago for $1000 and spending $300 over 7 yrs is cheaper !!!!

    What desktop requires a $500 annual maintenance ??? You can maintain a gaming rig for far less.

    We eventually got rid of those VDM and went back to conventional desktop. VDM are good for banks who don't want confidential information residing on local workstations, that it. Its a security measure, it can never measure up in performance to conventional desktops.

    As it relates to volume licensing, the cost is still the same. On conventional desktops with a Government license you can deploy that OS to as many workstations as your want. We had employees with that license residing on their home computers, who claimed it was for work related purposes. By the way these employees earned any where from >$60,000 annual and were too cheap to purchase a $150 software.
    Last edited: Oct 29, 2014
  10. Baywolf


    Cool story bro, but I never mentioned anything about saving money. The value add here (in my case) is not having to maintain my own infrastructure, disaster recovery, and backups (to an extent, also using dropbox), etc.

    But still, $300-500 a year sounds like a fair deal to me for what you could get: Compute, power, pipe, peace of mind. Thats $25-41 / mo. My ISP alone charges me $55 for pipe. As a professional trader I dont care to spend hours on newegg researching parts and building a gaming PC, dealing with RAID and drives going bad, installing OS and drivers. If saving money is your primary concern cloud desktops might not be for you.

    I was hoping this discussion could be about cloud desktop service providers and their offerings but I think this conversation might be too early.
    #10     Oct 29, 2014