Now I know why righties are so deluded about global warming

Discussion in 'Politics' started by futurecurrents, Jan 12, 2014.


  1. Huh huh huh, good one. You are a moron.



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    A formerly sceptical climate scientist says human activity is causing the Earth to warm, as a new study confirms earlier results on rising temperatures.

    In a US newspaper opinion piece, Prof Richard Muller says: "Call me a converted sceptic."

    Muller leads the Berkeley Earth Project, which is using new methods and some new data to investigate the claims made by other climate researchers.

    Their latest study confirms the warming trend seen by other groups.

    The project received funds from sources that back organisations lobbying against action on climate change.

    Their latest study, released early on Monday (GMT), concludes that the average temperature of the Earth's land has risen by 1.5C (2.7F) over the past 250 years.



    "I'm now going a step further: Humans are almost entirely the cause”

    The team argues that the good correspondence between the new temperature record and historical data on CO2 emissions suggests human activity is "the most straightforward explanation" for the warming.

    The paper reiterates the finding that the land surface temperature has risen 0.9C just in the last 50 years.

    In a piece authored for the New York Times, Prof Muller, from the University of California, Berkeley, said: "Three years ago I identified problems in previous climate studies that, in my mind, threw doubt on the very existence of global warming.

    "Last year, following an intensive research effort involving a dozen scientists, I concluded that global warming was real and that the prior estimates of the rate of warming were correct. I'm now going a step further: Humans are almost entirely the cause."

    When establishing the project, Prof Muller had been concerned by claims that established teams of climate researchers had not been entirely open with their data.

    He gathered a team of 10 scientists, mostly physicists, including such luminaries as Saul Perlmutter, winner of this year's Nobel Physics Prize for research showing the Universe's expansion is accelerating.

    Funding came from a number of sources, including charitable foundations maintained by the Koch brothers, billionaire US industrialists who have also donated large sums to organisations lobbying against acceptance of man-made global warming.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19047501
     
    #61     Jan 16, 2014
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    #62     Jan 16, 2014
  3. fhl

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    #63     Jan 16, 2014
  4. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    So you're saying CO2 will have a greater impact that orbital adjustment? Do you have something that backs that up?
     
    #64     Jan 16, 2014
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    #65     Jan 16, 2014
  6. Ricter

    Ricter

  7. jem

    jem

    here is the difference between nutter speculation and what real scientists are speculating.

    scientists understands that even in fc's scenario the outgassing of co2 may in fact be a trigger which starts the cooling.

    At some point co2 can not keep much more warmth (we are probably there in our atmosphere now) but as the co2 gets thicker it block more and more sun energy from coming in.

    Additionally, CO2 probably triggers watervapor (low clouds) which block / reflect the sun energy.




     
    #67     Jan 16, 2014
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  9. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    Jesus H Christ man. He's a liberal. His mere utterance is in itself automatically "fact".
     
    #69     Jan 16, 2014
  10. jem

    jem

    I saw the typos above and I will type this slowly.

    The concept the nutters leave out is that CO2 can warm and it can cool. It is a thermostat.

    As you add more CO2 (after the initial layer) it probably starts to cool.
     
    #70     Jan 16, 2014