Now I know why righties are so deluded about global warming

Discussion in 'Politics' started by futurecurrents, Jan 12, 2014.

  1. I typed in "heat wave global cooling" and got 'About 2,200,000 results'.

    You only need to read.
     
    #81     Jan 16, 2014
  2. Two things.

    1) Who cares about what Gore said? He is not the IPCC or the mouthpiece for the world's climate science community.

    2) Who cares what a judge thinks about what Gore thinks? That two degrees of separation from the science.

    3) Most of what Al Gore said is true. The world is rapidly warming. The charts forming a hockey stick shape. And the warming is due to man's release of greenhouse gasses. There is the same level of confidence of that as there is that cigarettes are bad for one's health.

    Sea levels will rise ever faster. Hurricanes WILL get stronger. Glaciers ARE melting. Coral IS bleaching. Islands ARE flooding. The ocean currents MAY slow or shut down or reverse. Polar bears ARE under stress, dying and have to swim over longer open water Etc.

    Gore is essentially correct about all of these things.


    So what's your point?
     
    #82     Jan 16, 2014
  3. jem

    jem

    here we go again... nasa science is telling you, you are a fraudlent, ignorant fool. CO2 is a greenhouse gas. Greenhouse gases... warm and cool.

    Water Vapor the largest greenhouse gas cools when it is low clouds and warms when it high clouds.

    you are very confused about what a greenhouse gas does or does not do.

    http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2012/22mar_saber/



    Mlynczak is the associate principal investigator for the SABER instrument onboard NASA’s TIMED satellite. SABER monitors infrared emissions from Earth’s upper atmosphere, in particular from carbon dioxide (CO2) and nitric oxide (NO), two substances that play a key role in the energy balance of air hundreds of km above our planet’s surface.
    “Carbon dioxide and nitric oxide are natural thermostats,” explains James Russell of Hampton University, SABER’s principal investigator. “When the upper atmosphere (or ‘thermosphere’) heats up, these molecules try as hard as they can to shed that heat back into space.”
    That’s what happened on March 8th when a coronal mass ejection (CME) propelled in our direction by an X5-class solar flare hit Earth’s magnetic field. (On the “Richter Scale of Solar Flares,” X-class flares are the most powerful kind.) Energetic particles rained down on the upper atmosphere, depositing their energy where they hit. The action produced spectacular auroras around the poles and significant1 upper atmospheric heating all around the globe.
    “The thermosphere lit up like a Christmas tree,” says Russell. “It began to glow intensely at infrared wavelengths as the thermostat effect kicked in.”
    For the three day period, March 8th through 10th, the thermosphere absorbed 26 billion kWh of energy. Infrared radiation from CO2 and NO, the two most efficient coolants in the thermosphere, re-radiated 95% of that total back into space.




     
    #83     Jan 16, 2014
  4. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Oh, I did. I see nothing very worthy. One side screaming all sorts of propaganda, the other condemning it.

    I do, however, find it telling that you'd rather spend more energy combating all the posts flaming you (with flaming responses back at them) than simply to engage in my questions.
     
    #84     Jan 16, 2014
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    #85     Jan 16, 2014
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    #86     Jan 16, 2014

  7. So you don't see the climate scientists saying this? You don't see the watts per square meter forcing equations and mathematics?

    No, it's out there. You are simply ignoring it. Intentionally. The worst kind of ignorance.

    The forcing effect of CO2 is larger than the upcoming reduction of solar due to orbital changes that are due in tens of thousands of years from now. That's what the climatologists, not the liberals, or the democrats or the socialists or the propagandists say. Also if you think we should be worried about about 20 thousand years from now and not about the next five hundred, your concerns are in the wrong place.

    The problem with you righties is that you think climate/global warming science is propaganda. It's not. It's science. It's actually pretty simple science on it's basic level.
     
    #87     Jan 16, 2014
  8. wjk

    wjk

    The problem with some of us is that we know many in power, especially on the left, are using the science to further their agendas, including redistribution on a global scale. To some extent, the science has been hijacked. That is what you don't see...easily understood because you trust gov more than most in this forum.
     
    #88     Jan 16, 2014
  9. jem

    jem

    you need to update your agw nutter science. all that watts per square meter and math was just speculation as to our dynamic environment. all those models failed.

    the code word is climate sensitivity and every nutter now understands the climate is less sensitive to co2.


    even co chief nutters are admitting they over estimated co2's "forcing". its not all co2.

    just two days ago...

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/

    The journal Nature embraces ‘the pause’ and ocean cycles as the cause, Trenberth still betting his heat will show up
    Posted on January 16, 2014 by Anthony Watts
    This post will be a “top sticky post” for a day or two due to its significance, new stories will appear below this one.

    From the “settled science” department. It seems even Dr. Kevin Trenberth is now admitting to the cyclic influences of the AMO and PDO on global climate. Neither “carbon” nor “carbon dioxide” is mentioned in this article that cites Trenberth as saying: “The 1997 to ’98 El Niño event was a trigger for the changes in the Pacific, and I think that’s very probably the beginning of the hiatus,”




     
    #89     Jan 16, 2014
  10. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    It's always a political thing with you. "The problem with you righties" or "your (sic) an idiot". Then, when people insult you back, you put them on ignore.

    I don't care what so-called, self-described climate "experts" say will happen in 10,000 years. I'd like to see the science. You talk a good talk, but when the debate is put to you, you throw all sorts of math terms and insults around to make the topic as confusing as possible.

    You're a charlatan. And, you're a hypocrite, if what these folks here say about you - repairing HVAC units.
     
    #90     Jan 16, 2014