Ocean Acidification - Fraud?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by jem, Dec 24, 2014.


  1. The AGW bullshitters? You mean virtually the entire world's science community? Those bullshitters? The over 97% of climate scientists who agree that AGW is very real? Those bulshitters? Or do you mean the people like myself that bring up these truths.

    The only bullshitters here are ideological liars like yourself that lie about and deny the problem of AGW, which is a far far greater threat than plastic in the ocean. AGW can be catastrophic to mankind. Plastics in the ocean? Not so much.
     
    #11     Dec 27, 2014
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    jem

    #12     Dec 27, 2014
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    jem

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    #13     Dec 27, 2014
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    jem

    Sabine’s excuse for using modeled data over real data? – ‘earlier data is not of “sufficient quality.”‘
    Anthony Watts / 2 days ago December 25, 2014
    WUWT reader Peter Gadiel writes:

    After reading of the critique of Sabine’s exclusion of the historical data on ocean acidification I emailed him. I thought his response might be of interest to you at WUWT. He says the earlier data is not of “sufficient quality.”

    My question to him:

    As a taxpayer who is helping to pay your salary I’d like to know why you are refusing to include all the data on ocean acidification that is available.

    Sabine’s response:

    Chris Sabine – NOAA Federal
    12:31 AM (11 hours ago)

    As a public servant that must stick to the rigor of the scientific method and only present data that is of sufficient quality to address the question, I am obliged to report the best evaluation of ocean chemistry changes available. This is what you pay me to do and I am working very hard to give you the best value for your tax dollar every day. I hope you are having a good holiday season.

    The question that immediately comes to mind is:

    Who determined that the directly measured ocean pH data was not of “sufficient quality” and if it wasn’t, why then did NOAA make the data available on their website as part of other ocean data in their World Ocean Database without a caveat?

    My search on NOAA’s NODC database for ocean pH data showed plenty of data and no caveats on use:

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/12/...ta-earlier-data-is-not-of-sufficient-quality/


    read more at the link... ​
     
    #14     Dec 27, 2014
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    piezoe

    What fraction had cancer in 1910?
     
    #15     Dec 27, 2014
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    piezoe

    Jem is one of a very few posters that actually pays attention to the literature and the actual data. Some of the rest of you just repeat what you read in USA today. Or in the case on one particular poster simply come back with an insult every time he posts something of real interest.
     
    #16     Dec 27, 2014
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    piezoe

    There seems to be some outliers (or is it "outliars" :D) that if you had the confidence limits for this data you would probably be justified in eliminating, by statistical test, as very likely erroneous. In any case, even without any error bars or error estimates, it is obvious that anyone that wants to conclude anything about ocean pH trend from this particular set of data is skating on thin ice.
     
    #17     Dec 27, 2014
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  8. i present multiple studies showing 97% and you show one. That says the same thing.

    If the skeptics are now at 40% it should be easy for you to find ONE science org that denies it.



    I'll be waiting. Liar.
     
    #18     Dec 27, 2014

  9. Thanks for the laugh. Yeah, he pays attention to it so he can lie about it while sounding like he knows what he is talking about. When in reality he just reposts lies from Breitbarf and LOLWUWT.

    But good to know that you are impressed with the kind of lying only a shifty slimey lawyer like jerm can do so well.
     
    #19     Dec 27, 2014


  10. Selective data set and this year is the warmest in at least a thousand years. Global warming is happening at faster rate than ever.

    So once again jerm. You are lying. You are a liar.
     
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    #20     Dec 27, 2014