one-offs

Discussion in 'Journals' started by destriero, Nov 10, 2023.

  1. destriero

    destriero


    Regarding VX... You can see the leverage to a 3% move downside which would result in perhaps a touch of 20 VX in the Dec. Arbing VX against isn't cheap but you can trade outright short VX against in lieu of the switch -> say, long Dec/Jan; Dec/Jan/Feb fly, etc. I can sell 10x outright in VX against this structure w/o risk.
     
    #11     Nov 12, 2023
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  2. destriero

    destriero


    Further, the more straightforward trade is to lever-up long Delta1 in SN or SN vol as a sort of dirty dispersion. I always carry the bear-convexity hence my returns are massively -corr to mkt while mkt-performing or better, upside. Hence I only show PNL when outperforming.
     
    #12     Nov 12, 2023
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  3. traider

    traider

    Why is the PNL for wings so much greater than body?
     
    #13     Nov 13, 2023
  4. Still trying to understand this. But would you say this position is trading against an overly sticky strike market? And part of the modelling is assuming sticky delta will take over for a large enough move?
     
    #14     Nov 13, 2023
  5. destriero

    destriero


    Sure, but at some point gamma (upside) goes to zero and it becomes Delta1. You have to model conservatively to assure that the stress on SD exceeds the loss to vol-corr upside.
     
    #15     Nov 13, 2023
  6. destriero

    destriero

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    #16     Nov 14, 2023
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  7. Adam777

    Adam777

    Wow this is gold ... and just when I had my pitchfork skew and flys all sorted with TWS data in excel. You've clearly explained how to find the max vertical skew between the 2 ET threads, but I didn't exactly understand how you're finding max horizontal skew
     
    Last edited: Nov 15, 2023
    #17     Nov 15, 2023
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  8. destriero

    destriero


    Through the complex fly/skew lock.
     
    #18     Nov 15, 2023
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  9. destriero

    destriero

    Yeah, The PF is obsolete.
     
    #19     Nov 15, 2023
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  10. ironchef

    ironchef

    @destriero, what do I have to do, to read up in order to understand what you and the others are talking about here?

    It is all Greek to me. :(
     
    #20     Nov 16, 2023