Options commission question....Tasty Works......

Discussion in 'Retail Brokers' started by marc82much, Feb 23, 2019.

  1. I like to trade Credit Spreads and Iron Condors. I use TOS and am happy with their software, service, tech support and pretty much everything else. Except for the cost of executing a trade. I have been looking at Tasty Works. I opened an (unfunded) account and it looks like it is going to be usable. The best part is the commission structure. Much better than TOS and here is the part I like best....no commission to exit a trade! So if I put on an Iron Condor, closing it out before expiration costs me nothing. Am I understanding that correctly? Would there still be fees, just not "commissions"? So, the real question is this: what other trading firm does this? If there are any, I would like to know as I have not settled on a permanent broker yet, but need to soon.
     
  2. Robert Morse

    Robert Morse Sponsor

    Our commission rates are lower than TD but we do not have a free exit. If you always exit your trades, it might save money to pay more up front, but if your spread expires, your paid for that too. We offer $0.60/Option including the OCC fee of $0.05 without A volume commitment. We do offer a volume discounts.

    Bob
     
  3. If I have enter a spread with a $1 credit and 30 days to go, I will often exit early if the debit will be less that half of the original credit, and days remaining is greater than half of the original.

    Also, as much as I would like to, I am afraid I cannot deposit enough to play in your league.
     
  4. cafeole

    cafeole

    Yes, you still pay the fees on exit. On one of my trades last year for 1 contract I was charged 1.13 to open and 0.14 to close. BTW commissions are capped to $10 + fees for anything over 10 contracts.
     
    Last edited: Feb 23, 2019
  5. Unless you're legging, you're nuts to trade complex orders anywhere other than IB.
     
  6. Robert Morse

    Robert Morse Sponsor

    Why?
     
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  7. Overnight

    Overnight

    Yeah, why? Why is IB so superior to every other broker out there in the universe for what the OP wishes to accomplish? Please explain in exacting detail why IB will be the superior choice above every other broker on the planet.
     
  8. FSU

    FSU

    I would actually say the opposite for 2 reasons. IB may hold a complex order until they view it is "marketable." In fact it may indeed be filled if they sent it to an exchange. Also you can't direct a spread to a specific exchange, which can be very helpful when a spread is trading on 1 exchange only.
     
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  9. srinir

    srinir

  10. In answer to Robert, FSU and srnir: I realize that IB is far from perfect. HOWEVER, would you rather have your complex order shopped to whatever MM pays the highest rebate?

    Option spreads and multi-leg orders are the last frontier of theft for discount* firms. The juiciest rebates offered are for non-vanilla option orders. If you were Citadel, would you rather chomp on option butterflies or 100 share market orders in GE?

    A spread offer at 40 cents on a "board" that's 38b-42a based on individual strikes (i.e. ATM is 1.00-1.02, OTM .38-.40) has a far better chance of being filled IB than anywhere else.

    Further, as FSU certainty knows, serious* index spreaders stay away from ETFs all together and only trade CBOE listed products or options on CME futures.

    I realize that due to small multipliers, SPY and QQQ are good products for under capitalized or novice traders but fill quality (and competitive commissions) are paramount to profitability. But, missing a trade because your order is hidden from the world is far more expensive than a slightly higher commission schedule.
     
    #10     Feb 25, 2019
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