POLL: Evolution vs. Creation by God

Discussion in 'Religion and Spirituality' started by studentofthemarkets, Oct 24, 2021.

Evolution, Creation, God?

  1. I am an atheist and believe the theory of evolution.

    5 vote(s)
  2. I am agnostic and believe the theory of evolution.

    3 vote(s)
  3. I believe the theory of evolution but the process was guided by aliens or other powers.

    1 vote(s)
  4. I believe God created using macro evolution: bacteria became an elephant.

    1 vote(s)
  5. I believe God specially created according to families/kinds.

    5 vote(s)
  6. Other-I believe something not represented on this poll.

    6 vote(s)
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  1. Overnight


    Nope. Gave it a run for the first 40 seconds. He kept going on about "synthetic organic chemistry". Over and over again, and he kept getting angry about it in his tone. He is not a scientist because of his emotion, and rambling on and on about an applied science that has to do with engineering. WTF cares?
    #21     Nov 8, 2021
  2. You can't (correctly) say that he isn't a scientist. He has a ton of credentials:

    James M. Tour, a synthetic organic chemist, received his Bachelor of Science degree in chemistry from Syracuse University, his Ph.D. in synthetic organic and organometallic chemistry from Purdue University, and postdoctoral training in synthetic organic chemistry at the University of Wisconsin and Stanford University. After spending 11 years on the faculty of the Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry at the University of South Carolina, he joined the Center for Nanoscale Science and Technology at Rice University in 1999 where he is presently the T. T. and W. F. Chao Professor of Chemistry, Professor of Computer Science, and Professor of Materials Science and NanoEngineering. Tour’s scientific research areas include nanoelectronics, graphene electronics, silicon oxide electronics, carbon nanovectors for medical applications, green carbon research for enhanced oil recovery and environmentally friendly oil and gas extraction, graphene photovoltaics, carbon supercapacitors, lithium ion batteries, CO2 capture, water splitting to H2 and O2, water purification, carbon nanotube and graphene synthetic modifications, graphene oxide, carbon composites, hydrogen storage on nanoengineered carbon scaffolds, and synthesis of single-molecule nanomachines which includes molecular motors and nanocars. He has also developed strategies for retarding chemical terrorist attacks. For pre-college education, Tour developed the NanoKids concept for K-12 education in nanoscale science, and also Dance Dance Revolution and Guitar Hero science packages for elementary and middle school education: SciRave (www.scirave.org) which later expanded to a Stemscopes-based SciRave. The SciRave program has risen to be the #1 most widely adopted program in Texas to complement science instruction, and it is currently used by over 450 school districts and 40,000 teachers with over 1 million student downloads.

    Professor Tour has over 740 research publications and over 150 patent families, with an h-index = 159 with total citations over 117,000. In 2021, he won the Oesper Award from the American Chemical Society which is awarded to “outstanding chemists for lifetime significant accomplishments in the field of chemistry with long-lasting impact on the chemical sciences.” In 2020, he became a Fellow of the Royal Society of Chemistry and in the same year was awarded the Royal Society of Chemistry’s Centenary Prize for innovations in materials chemistry with applications in medicine and nanotechnology. Based on the impact of his published work, in 2019 Tour was ranked in the top 0.004% of the 7 million scientists who have published at least 5 papers in their careers. He was inducted into the National Academy of Inventors in 2015. Tour was named among “The 50 Most Influential Scientists in the World Today” by TheBestSchools.org in 2019; listed in “The World’s Most Influential Scientific Minds” by Thomson Reuters ScienceWatch.com in 2014; and recipient of the Trotter Prize in “Information, Complexity and Inference” in 2014; and was the Lady Davis Visiting Professor, Hebrew University, June, 2014. Tour was named “Scientist of the Year” by R&D Magazine, 2013. He was awarded the George R. Brown Award for Superior Teaching, 2012, Rice University; won the ACS Nano Lectureship Award from the American Chemical Society, 2012; was the Lady Davis Visiting Professor, Hebrew University, June, 2011 and was elected Fellow of the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS), 2009. Tour was ranked one of the Top 10 chemists in the world over the past decade, by a Thomson Reuters citations per publication index survey, 2009; won the Distinguished Alumni Award, Purdue University, 2009 and the Houston Technology Center’s Nanotechnology Award in 2009. He won the Feynman Prize in Experimental Nanotechnology in 2008, the NASA Space Act Award in 2008 for his development of carbon nanotube reinforced elastomers and the Arthur C. Cope Scholar Award from the American Chemical Society for his achievements in organic chemistry in 2007. Tour was the recipient of the George R. Brown Award for Superior Teaching in 2007. He also won the Small Times magazine’s Innovator of the Year Award in 2006, the Nanotech Briefs Nano 50 Innovator Award in 2006, the Alan Berman Research Publication Award, Department of the Navy in 2006, the Southern Chemist of the Year Award from the American Chemical Society in 2005 and The Honda Innovation Award for Nanocars in 2005. Tour’s paper on Nanocars was the most highly accessed journal article of all American Chemical Society articles in 2005, and it was listed by LiveScience as the second most influential paper in all of science in 2005. Tour has won several other national awards including the National Science Foundation Presidential Young Investigator Award in Polymer Chemistry and the Office of Naval Research Young Investigator Award in Polymer Chemistry.

    Professor Tour is the founder and principal of NanoJtech Consultants, LLC, performing technology assessments for the prospective investor. Tour’s intellectual property has been the seed for the formation of several other companies including Weebit (silicon oxide electronic memory), Dotz (graphene quantum), Zeta Energy (batteries), NeuroCords (spinal cord repair), Xerient (treatment of pancreas cancer), LIGC Application Ltd. (laser-induced graphene), Nanorobotics (molecular nanomachines in medicine) Universal Matter Ltd. (US) and Universal Matter Inc. (Canada) (flash graphene synthesis), Roswell Biotechnologies (molecular electronic DNA sequencing) and Rust Patrol (corrosion inhibitors).

    Professor Tour has served as a visiting scholar at Harvard University, on the Chemical Reviews Editorial Advisory Board, the Governor’s Mathematics and Science Advisory Board for South Carolina, the Defense Science Study Group through the Institute for Defense Analyses, the Defense Science Board Chem/Nano Study Section, the Department of Commerce Emerging Technology and Research Advisory Committee and the MD Anderson Cancer Research Center’s Competitive Grant Renewal Board. He has been active in consulting on several national defense-related topics, in addition to numerous other professional committees and panels.

    #22     Nov 8, 2021
  3. Who cares?

    Well, I would think that you and everyone else should care. If there is even a chance that the theory of evolution isn't responsible for how we got here, then wouldn't people want to search out other plausible explanations for our existence?

    There is a lot of evidence that supports the truthfulness of the Scriptures in it's proclamation that God created all things.

    And there are a lot of scientific problems with the Big Bang theory and the theory of evolution.
    #23     Nov 8, 2021
  4. Overnight


    I don't have to read your wall of text. Anyone who gets that emotional about his/her science is not a scientist, but an evangelist.
    #24     Nov 8, 2021
  5. Overnight


    There is a way to let go and let God, without being a proselyte. ..

    #25     Nov 8, 2021
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  6. Yes. There are times when one should let go and let God, so to speak, even in evangelism.

    But, how will people know truth unless someone who has truth stands up for the truth and shares it with them?

    If I have something you don't have, that gives me an understanding of the truth, then I am not wrong in trying to share that with you or others that don't have what I have.

    If someone doesn't want to listen to what I am sharing they don't have to read any of my posts. You have a free will to choose to not read these posts.

    If I was being obnoxious and posting about God in your trading journal, then I think you'd have a reason to be upset over proselytizing. :D
    #26     Nov 8, 2021
  7. Some people just get intense during any discussion they feel strongly about. He made many very good points throughout the video.
    #27     Nov 8, 2021
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  8. Overnight


    I do not recall you posting about God in my journal. But this here thread you have is not a journal, it is a thread in the R&S section. If you would like me to refrain from challenging your ideas in this section of the forum, I will do so.

    If that is your wish, I will be forced to unleash the wrath of all hell-hath-fury silly videos I have on the subject. And Lord knows, we've had enough of that already, lol!
    #28     Nov 8, 2021
  9. CORRECT! I have never posted about God in your trading journal.

    I don't mind the challenges at all. It keeps the thread more interesting than if I am just talking to myself!:D

    No, please, not the video unleashing, anything but that! :D

    (Actually, not ANYTHING, just sounded good in the moment.)
    #29     Nov 8, 2021
  10. ph1l


    He is a scientist -- a scientist for the hard of hearing. That's something like


    His basic argument is "We do not know how to build ..." Some people (not Dr. Tour in the video) extrapolate that into theorizing people who wrote the Bible thousands of years ago knew better.
    #30     Nov 8, 2021
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