Possible Election Fraud in Progress

Discussion in 'Politics' started by BeautifulStranger, Nov 4, 2020.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #821     Nov 27, 2020
  2. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/ellis-arizona-legislature-constitution/2020/11/27/id/999065/
    Senior Legal Adviser to the Trump 2020 campaign Jenna Ellis said Friday on Newsmax TV that she and a team will head to Arizona on Monday in an effort to convince the state’s legislature to reassert its authority under the Constitution to appoint electors to the Electoral College.

    Ellis began her appearance on ''Stinchfield'' by announcing that the Pennsylvania General Assembly has announced it will introduce a resolution in both houses of the state legislature to reclaim its authority to appoint electors — a revelation previewed earlier in the day by state Sen. Doug Mastriano on ''War Room,'' former White House strategist Steve Bannon’s video podcast.
     
    #822     Nov 27, 2020
  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Let’s take look at reality. Let’s imagine if this nonsense passed the state legislature (in reality it only has the support of a couple of crackpots). The Democratic governor of Pennsylvania would veto it and the legislature does not have the necessary votes to override.

    Any way you look at it — this effort to undermine electors in Pennsylvania is dead on arrival.
     
    #823     Nov 27, 2020
  4. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Reader----just so you are aware----Governors of states have no say in the selection of electors. The state legislatures have the sole final determination power.
     
    #824     Nov 27, 2020
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  5. Buy1Sell2

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    Electoral College
    Clause 2. Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress; but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.
     
    #825     Nov 27, 2020
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  6. I reviewed the first 43 minutes and 20 seconds out of 3 plus hours of the YouTube video of the PA Legislative hearing concerning the recent elections in PA, before the video froze after a Google ad played. Witness testimony was presented that included a practicing PA attorney who was a poll watcher. He named the what, when, where, and how PA election laws were violated. I will attempt to obtain the transcript of this hearing and publish it here. If you are also concerned about the attempt to steal the people’s choice for President, you should also obtain a copy of the transcripts to this PA Legislative hearing and distribute and discuss it with people you know.

    Here are partial, “Timestamped” (Rounded to first 5:00 minutes) notes of the early part of this hearing:

    Video starts at 5:00. Introductions.

    10:00 Senator Mastriano “Media is complicit”. “Our Republic is at stake”. “PA Governor... petty politics”. “PA Supreme Court legislated from bench (Act 77), changing guidence a day before election, in violation of PA election law”.

    12:00 More details on Act 77. “Poll watchers illegally denied access; many ballots opened without Republicans or ‘Civilians’ present”. “Electronic voting system employees refused to testify”.

    20:00 Reminder to audience this is an official legislative hearing and introduction to Rudy.

    Rudy talked about denial by US media and state legistlatures over the Trump Campaign as well as others over indications of voting irregularities as well as modus operandi regarding the voting irregularities being the same, as suggestive of planning and coordination. Rudy talked about escalated censorship by big tech during and after the election.

    Personal note: Immediately beneath the YouTube video I was watching was two items of propaganda suggesting that Biden won and that our elections are secure.

    Rudy then briefly talked about the inherent vulnerability of mail in ballots to fraud. Combining the lack of oversight when workers separate the ballots from the envelopes eliminates a way to challenge defective, invalid, or fraudulent ballots.

    Rudy discussed that more mail in ballots were counted than actually mailed, by hundreds of thousands of votes as the PA election website showed, until this information was removed prior the PA Legislative hearing.

    Rudy also mentioned his witness list included poll watchers who had 20 to 30 years of experience and never saw the things happen before the way they did on this election. There was no transparency and active efforts of Democrats to deny ensuring the integrity of PA’s election by neutral or Republican observers.

    35:00 Rudy lists names of witnesses.

    First witness who speaks is an attorney who discusses the what where, when, and how PA election laws were violated, as pointed out earlier in this post.

    Between this meeting and The Compliant I linked in a post yesterday, there appears to be ample evidence indicating election fraud whose only cure at this point may be to hold new elections requiring multiparty oversight. Perhaps emergency policy regarding mail in ballots and electronic voting would be appropriate in an election redo.

    It appears the Democrats and most of the media is corupt through and through. Even possibly extending to certain key judges, including Republicans. Was the Trump appointed judge Stephanos Bibas compromised in some way in his decision to deny relief for the Trump campaign? I will note that early on during Trump’s Presidency the Democrats went after Trump’s attorneys, effectively denying him of the most competent legal representation available to him. In addition, several PA attorneys withdrew from representation. Was this because of coersion of some form? We have seen Trump attorneys seemingly coerced before during the Muller Investigation, making the preceeding scenario plausible. We have also seen Rachel Maddow suggesting criminal prosecution for those who deseminate false information about the election. We have even seen an actress come under fire for supporting Trump, with some suggesting her career is over. Anyone seeing a pattern here? Look up the history of either NAZI Germany or early Soviet history for comparisons, not that they are the only ones.

    More to follow.
     
    #826     Nov 27, 2020
  7. virtusa

    virtusa

    This article shows the idiocy and desperation of Trump:
    Recounts of states that cannot change the winner. What's the use? And final result was that Biden got MORE votes. So the "fraud" was done by the Republicans, just the opposite of what had to be proven. ROFLMAO.

    Trump asked for a very expensive recount that will give Biden more votes.


    The recount of the votes in the state of Wisconsin requested by US President Donald Trump did not bring about the turnaround he wanted. After recounting, it turned out that Democrat Joe Biden even got 132 more votes, reports The Washington Post newspaper.
    Biden had already been named the winner in the northern state: he had a lead of just over 20,000 votes. After the recount, the 10 electors representing the state will be definitively owned by the Democrat.
    Trump's campaign team requested a partial recount of votes on November 18, paying the legally stipulated sum of $ 3 million ($ 2.5 million). The three million dollars that Trump paid amounts to approximately 9,200 euros per vote won for Biden.
    Had the ten electors come into the hands of Trump, that would not have changed the election results. Biden has amassed 306 electors, Trump is no further than 232.
     
    #827     Nov 28, 2020
  8. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    He just said there was no proof. You've been claiming on here that there is ample proof. Should we believe the trucker ( and the psychotic Trump ) or the many judges, lawyers, election officials in 50 states who see no proof and stand fully by the soundness of the election process ?

    You've been "calling an election unfair" for weeks on here. There is no merit to doing so it's becoming increasingly asinine as the cases get thrown out and the recounts are confirming the election counts within normal error levels.
     
    #828     Nov 28, 2020
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  9. Actual testimony of at least three witnesses before the PA Legislature with many more who signed affidavits is not evidence of election fraud to you? Certaintly these witnesses have not undergone cross examination, but that is what our court system is for, right? However, the courts are not willing to hear these witnesses, apparently for political reasons. When we have our court system not willing to hear evidence of potential election fraud for something as significant as an election for seemingly political reasons, it is a unlimited national emergency, in my opinion.

    I understand you will not hear, consider, or recognize what I’m saying on the subject of election fraud, so I’ll discuss another, though related, subject.

    Let’s strip away concepts like rule of law, tradition, fair play, civil rights, culture, Consitutional principles, and the like and talk about political philosophy while assessing the relative capabilities of the Left versus the Right. This will be a clinical analysis where system practicality and efficiency will be measured versus relative levels of individual rights and standards of living.

    Roughly under the system established when the United States achieved its Independence and developed as technology and industry flourished, individual freedom was emphasized. One, other than slaves or women depending on era of course, had an opportunity to create their own economic opportunities through hard work and innovation. Resources, especially quality land, was plentiful. As human population grew, its impact on the environment inreased from pollution and displacement of other important species. Further, as technology continues to advance, the potential impact of a ever smaller group of rogue people upon society increases, creating systemic security challenges.

    The Left seems to enjoy a disproportionate number of smart people. From leaders in technology and finance, including groups of people associated with high intelligence such as Socialist Jews.

    The Right seems to value religion, tradition, and personal freedom but are less intelligent and organized than the Left.

    In a world of high technology and increasing connectedness, the attribute of greater intelligence becomes an ever increasing factor on the successful propagation and implementation of ideas. In other words, the days of Conservative values are numbered and due to be “Darwined” out if trends persist.

    Again, from a clincal viewpoint, a question of relative productivity and resource use come to mind. The Capitalist economic system created great gains in technology and productivity resulting in a higher standard of living versus other systems.

    What happens long term when the Left takes over? Is their thinking along the lines of automation is replacing the need for workers and environmental considerations demand reduced use of non renewable resources, thus a Socialist System would be most efficient? 400 sq ft apartments with small windows for a family is more efficient as well. What will be the impact on society when the majority of the population is not engaged, instead spending most of their day using electronic devices for social media? So we end up having a much larger proportion of people not contributing to the functioning of our system. From a resource availability and environmental standpoint, how would you imagine “Presures of increasing efficiency” to ultimately manifest?

    When the culture of the United States was at its peak, say the 1940s to the 1950s, people tended to get along and had a problem solving attitude. People were more self sufficient, could fix their own car, appliances, or something else in their home. I’m not even talking about families who lived on farms. As the Left increasingly controls the flow of information and ever greater numbers of people become less actively engaged and lose their problem solving skills, what would you imagine could happen when a major natural or man made disaster happens?

    One of the possibilities is society breaks down while the majority of people are left wondering what to do and contributing little to recovery. As our society become more specialized and dependent on other production and distribution systems, it becomes more vulnerable to a large scale failure after a relatively small initial failure.

    So while the Democrats may be ultimately successful in stealing the 2020 Presidental election, don’t gloat too much, because you may get something other than you are wishing for. By the way, hundreds of thousands to millions of disengranchised voters combined IQs and especially their wisdom are far greater than a “Few at the top” Leftists.

    We need fair elections and to cooperate with one another to have a functioning society. There are few, if any, greater causes of long term resentment and mistrust of the other side than a stolen election. While it is hard to predict how a stolen election or at least perceptions of a stolen election would manifest itself, it is safe to say the effectiveness of a Biden Administration would be reduced along with less tolerance towards partisan policies before potentially “Spontaneously and sincere” action takes place by the other side.

    Transparency of the election, no matter where it ultimately leads, is good for society and business.

    None of us should tolerate anything less.
     
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    #829     Nov 28, 2020
  10. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    The left takes over, the right takes over bla bla binary bullshit from the cultists, piece of shit enablers and who is thinking about poor Trump?



    Trump, just start to sell pardons already while you still can!
     
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    #830     Nov 28, 2020