Putin Announces ‘Partial Mobilization,’ Stepping Up Ukraine War

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by vanzandt, Sep 21, 2022.

  1. The market reaction is very calm to the news that he wants to use atom rockets or weapons too in case it is required aka he cannot win under other circumstances. That news is not played out in the markets. There is no huge run into USD longs and equity indices market selloff so far. Maybe the market thinks it can be only a bluff ? But so far I have learnt the lesson that Putin is not bluffing at all when he has a chance to realize his plan(s).
     
    #31     Sep 21, 2022
  2. M.W.

    M.W.

    Can't disagree more. The Ukraine crisis so far has been nothing more than a sideshow for markets. Sure, it will cause a 3-5% move up of the market but I doubt there will be much follow through.

    Here is why: persistently high inflation is unrelated to anything Ukraine/Russia. Europe is obviously more affected by this conflict. But all supply chain issues, increasing labor cost, the correction in the housing markets around the world are all unrelated to this conflict. Gimmick tech companies are still way overvalued. The threat of Chinese supremacy and increased aggression won't disappear. Those are all big issues that won't go away in the medium term. China is now posting news of breakthroughs in aviation, weaponry, ai,... On an almost daily basis. There is way more momentum in top tier innovation in China than Europe or North America. None of that points to a peaceful handover of economic supremacy. As with waning imperial power and subsequent angry reactions out of the UK we will not see America hand over control of the world peacefully. There will be military and information conflict if not war. None of that will subside in the absence of the crisis in Ukraine.

     
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    #32     Sep 21, 2022
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  3. M.W.

    M.W.

    Muted because it's by far not the main driver of any economic activity and it's slowdown in the west. It makes for large headline news but the effects will be muted of whatever comes out of Ukraine.

     
    #33     Sep 21, 2022
  4. maxinger

    maxinger

    It is a matter of time before humans will become extinct not because of asteroid
    hitting the earth but because of human created WMD.

    Someone is going to press the big red button.
    Is it Trump (if he is re elected)? Is it Putin?
     
    #34     Sep 21, 2022
  5. M.W.

    M.W.

    Freshly sourced from Fox or CNN? I have zero stake in that conflict but nobody can be so naive as to think that Russia can't mobilize/force many additional hundreds of thousands if not more than a million soldiers. Have you checked the population of Russia lately and observed what Russians are capable of suffering wise?just because some video footage of Russian kids deserting their assigned spots made the rounds does not mean that the country is done.

     
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    #35     Sep 21, 2022
  6. M.W.

    M.W.

    Many you tubers? You can't be serious. Who TF cares about those? Not even 0.2% are estimated to have fled/left Russia since the invasion of Ukraine. Let's keep things in perspective here.

     
    #36     Sep 21, 2022
  7. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Putin is nothing but bluff and bluster. He learned from OrangeJesus when he was over there in the 90's.
     
    #37     Sep 21, 2022
  8. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    It may only be 2 0r 3 percent after the dust settles... but it would be 8% plus for at least an hour.
     
    #38     Sep 21, 2022
  9. cesfx

    cesfx

    I can't see how the situation would de-escalate if Putin died.
    We would never know how crazy is the next man, or their reaction to a president killed.
     
    #39     Sep 21, 2022
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  10. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Gotta start somewhere.
     
    #40     Sep 21, 2022
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