Putin speaks to the American people in The New York Times

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Grandluxe, Sep 11, 2013.

  1. Ricter

    Ricter

    I think any organization with the highest values and best practices IS exceptional. Our love, enshrinement, and ability to bring into force freedom of speech and democracy (despite shortcomings and mistakes, which all nations have) is greater than Russia's. We are more exceptional than they.
     
    #21     Sep 12, 2013
  2. It's pretty sad when one has to look to a foreign leader to stop your own president.

    I can't help but feel we are fortunate to have an elder statesman like Putin to be around at such a tumultuous time in world affairs. Who was going to stop Obama? Nobody was going to say no to the messiah. David Cameron? Just another lapdog. Hollande? What a joke. China? China is only interested in business and erm...China. Only Putin had the courage and clear- mindedness to see where all this was going. Ironically, he might have just saved America from yet another foreign misadventure.
     
    #22     Sep 12, 2013
  3. Ricter

    Ricter

    You're psychotic. You play for this team, for better or for worse, or you get the fuck out.

    Obama is not creating America's division, plutocracy is. It was just like this during our last fling with high inequality, the so-called gilded age.
     
    #23     Sep 12, 2013
  4. Banjo

    Banjo

  5. Well, we will just have to agree to disagree on this...

    Classification of values as "highest" and practices as "best" is a very subjective business, innit? Your "highest" values can easily be my "lowest" and vice versa.

    Finally, don't think being "relatively more exceptional" computes for me.
     
    #25     Sep 12, 2013
  6. jem

    jem

    We were exceptional.

    When we had a great balance in our country between freedom loving liberals and business loving republicans with plenty of educated constitution loving patriots on both sides.

    We ceased being exceptional when our left side went from being classical (constitution and freedom loving ) liberals to progressive big govt loving drones.

    Now we have two sets of politicians both sets selling out the people and the constitution on every big vote.
     
    #26     Sep 12, 2013
  7. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Please go back and dig up what VV was like when he was the Mayor of St. Pete, and during his time as KGB 2nd directorate.
     
    #27     Sep 12, 2013
  8. Putin was Mayor of St. Petersburg? When was that?

    I was only referring to what happened to religion in Russia during the time he was president.
     
    #28     Sep 12, 2013
  9. They are united in their outrage. Sorry boy's, good old Vlad outpalyed you, and now you're pissed? You incompentent fucks couldn't plan a picnic, and Putin just shoved your faces in that fact. No Mr. U.S. politcal slug, all 535 of you worthless pieces of shit, Putin did not insult me, he insulted you, and you deserve it.

    It’s not every day that an opinion piece in The New York Times simultaneously insults the Republican speaker of the House and nearly causes the top Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee to nearly "vomit."

    But that’s exactly what happened when Russian President Vladimir Putin penned an article calling for the U.S. government, which is considering launching a military strike on Syria for alleged war crimes, to use restraint in the Middle East. In his piece, Putin also took issue with part of President Barack Obama's national address on Syria on Tuesday night, which made the case for military action and praised “American exceptionalism.”

    “It is extremely dangerous to encourage people to see themselves as exceptional, whatever the motivation,” Putin wrote.

    “I was at dinner,” New Jersey Democratic Sen. Bob Menendez said on CNN after he read the piece. “And I almost wanted to vomit.”

    Other lawmakers were equally blunt.

    “I was insulted,” House Speaker John Boehner told reporters on Thursday morning. “I’ve probably already said more than I should have said, but you’ve got the truth.”

    Arizona Republican Sen. John McCain called Putin's piece an “insult to the intelligence of every American.”
     
    #29     Sep 12, 2013
  10. Ricter

    Ricter

    Right on, Kerry, keep up the pressure:

    "GENEVA — U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry is rejecting Syrian President Bashar Assad's suggestion Thursday that he begin submitting data on his chemical weapons arsenal one month after signing an international chemical weapons ban.

    "Speaking at a news conference with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, Kerry noted that Assad said a 30-day lead time would be standard.

    "There is nothing standard about this process," Kerry said, because Assad has used his chemical weapons.

    "The words of the Syrian regime in our judgment are simply not enough."

    "Kerry cautioned that a U.S. military strike could occur if Assad doesn't agree to dismantle his chemical arsenal properly.

    "He said, "There ought to be consequences if it doesn't take place."

    "Lavrov said the dismantling "will make unnecessary any strike against the Syrian Arab Republic."

    Alright then, git 'er done.
     
    #30     Sep 12, 2013