Re-opening Schools in the era of COVID

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Jul 13, 2020.

  1. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    You haven't responded to anything. You've just reposted the same thing over and over again. Well, technically reposting the same thing over and over IS a response, but it isn't one that refutes any comments.

    Our schools would be open no matter what. Because we're in Florida, thank God.
     
    #1171     Sep 1, 2021
  2. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

     
    #1172     Sep 1, 2021
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  3. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    AH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA OH HOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO EH HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE
     
    #1173     Sep 1, 2021
  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    I did respond -- I will note that medrxiv is a leading portal for pre-prints. This is a study by respected researchers which is being submitted for publication and peer review. The study is back by data -- and they even provide a power-point to walk through the information.

    After this you claimed none of the studies compared schools with masks to those without masks -- I pointed out the CDC Georgia study did this.

    At this point the nonsense you posted to cast aspirations on the studies is laughable. Go read the studies and come back with some facts with the data you disagree with -- at which point you can contact the respected authors about your concerns.
     
    #1174     Sep 1, 2021
  5. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Right, but again, you can't say other places that non peer reviewed papers and studies can't be accepted - except when you post them. That's a big problem you often have. You forget what you said and end up eating your words.

    At which point I asked you if this was the same CDC that previously said masks don't work, and you didn't answer. This is important because if you are using a source that says one thing but then flip flops and says another when it becomes political, that's not really a good source that is unbiased.

    I don't have concerns. I've discounted the studies because of the reasons I mentioned. I am happy to change my mind if you show some reason to, but you seem to be unable to do so.

    Additionally, I note that you didn't make another comment on the Duke study (which ONLY looked at masks schools and not unmasked schools - LOL)
     
    #1175     Sep 1, 2021
  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Fine open mind you have there --- when it comes to studies actually performed by respected scientists.
     
    #1176     Sep 1, 2021
  7. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Says the man who won't even try to discuss alternative viewpoints because "Facebook says they are not reliable".

    Also hahahaha:

     
    #1177     Sep 1, 2021
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    There is a big difference between mainstream studies by respected researchers and nonsense posted on social media -- especially nonsense that is regularly removed for being misinformation.
     
    #1178     Sep 1, 2021
  9. jem

    jem

    absolute garbage.
    I already told the problems with the first 26 day November to Dec 2020 study.


    and the second is a report..useless

    and the third is a model.
    a model containing the assumption that masks work.

    fucking joke of a brain you have.


     
    #1179     Sep 1, 2021
  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    With DeSantis rebuked and child COVID cases soaring, schools must act to protect students
    https://www.ocala.com/story/opinion...ould-prompt-schools-protect-covid/5662045001/

    Florida’s public school districts have the right — at least for now — to insist that students, teachers and others on campus wear masks and take other precautions against COVID.

    Friday, a circuit judge in Tallahassee ruled that Gov. Ron DeSantis overstepped his legal boundaries when he attempted to block mask requirements in local schools. It was the right call.

    Florida’s parental-rights law grants a clear exception for local rules crafted to keep students safe, and the danger is already coming into focus. Last week, 17.5% of the positive COVID tests statewide were for children under 12 — too young to be vaccinated.

    School districts that haven’t already implemented mask requirements should summon the courage to take advantage of this opportunity. If they need more evidence on the benefits of doing so, consider this statistic reported by WOFL-FOX 35 Orlando. In Broward County, which started school under a mask mandate, there were eight positive cases as of Aug. 20 — a number that dropped to six on Aug. 23.

    In Orange County, which didn’t have a mask requirement the first day of school, there were 207 cases on Aug. 20 and 382 on Aug. 23. Orange County officials didn’t need to see any more: Their mandate went into effect Monday.

    In both counties, school officials are certain to hear from people insisting that the sharp increase in student cases won’t translate into serious health risks for students. But there’s no way they can be sure.

    So far, child hospitalizations and deaths from COVID seem relatively low, and we certainly hope it stays that way. But local health officials say the delta variant is more likely to make children sick. Even if officials act this week, they may see the number of children hospitalized for COVID — and, eventually, killed by it — rise inexorably over the next few weeks.

    It was curious that DeSantis chose public schools as a battleground. The governor has battered away at anti-pandemic measures for months now, issuing orders that stripped local officials’ authority to enact mask mandates, limit communal gatherings and enact other protections.

    The governor’s mantra, all along, was that he was defending Florida’s economy. That stance came with an ugly subtext that valued money over human life, but at least it was consistent.

    It’s hard to see, however, how the governor squares that philosophy with his attack on school-based protections. There’s no valid argument that connects Florida’s business climate to the presence or absence of a mask on the face of a fifth-grader, outside the negligible economic boost achieved by the sale of child-sized masks.

    The “parental choice” argument doesn’t make much sense either; the governor's order quashed the choices of the large number of Floridian parents who would prefer to keep their children safe from a potentially deadly disease.

    Those who argue that kids won’t keep their masks on may have the weakest argument of all. Kids have no concept of their own mortality: They eat dirt. They undo their seatbelts. They pick up guns. That doesn’t lessen the responsibility of adults to keep them safe — in fact, it magnifies it.

    DeSantis, who has young children of his own, should understand that. Florida’s children deserve protection, and the governor should stop fighting local school officials who are trying to provide it.
     
    #1180     Sep 1, 2021