Russia & Ukraine

Discussion in 'Politics' started by UsualName, Jan 18, 2022.

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    #1781     Mar 6, 2022
  2. UsualName

    UsualName

    Day 12 and Kyiv still stands! The slog continues but, again, Russia continues to show decreased intensity in attacking - supporting they expected a relatively short “operation” of approximately 2 weeks.
     
    #1782     Mar 6, 2022
  3. Lots of circle jerking going on with getting these planes to the Ukraine. Just talking about it is not the right response.

    Oh, great, right as I type Blinken says "I can't speak to the timeline but I can only say that we are looking at it very carefully." Get going motherfucker and stop dishing out last week's news and excuses.

    Lots and lots and lots of valuable time has been lost. Lots.

    Get your fingers out of your arse. They should have had this plan in place months ago. After all, they keep bragging about how they have known about the invasion since last October.

    White House weighs 3-way deal to get fighter jets to Ukraine



    https://news.yahoo.com/white-house-weighs-three-way-000147123.html
     
    #1783     Mar 6, 2022
  4. Millionaire

    Millionaire

    It took way longer for the US to take out Sadams regime in 2003.
    And that was after 10x bombing of Baghdad compared to what the Russians are doing.

    The Russians were never going to take Ukraine in 3 days. That is just propaganda pumped out by the West to make it look like Putin is failing badly.
     
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    #1784     Mar 6, 2022
  5. UsualName

    UsualName

    The Iraqi regime was taken over in less than 2 weeks and the army disbanded in less than a month.
     
    #1785     Mar 6, 2022
  6. Millionaire

    Millionaire

    It took a month for the US (the most powerful military nation on earth, 10 times more powerful than Russia in military spending) to take out the weakened Iraqi army which had no air force or modern western supplied weapons likes Javelins and Stingers.

    And yet people really think the Russians expected the Ukrainian Army to be beaten in 3 days?

    This is just obvious propaganda to make it look like the Russians are losing badly.
     
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    #1786     Mar 6, 2022
  7. No Christmas card for this guy. LOL. I don't know that I'd be as biased as he is in his assessment of the situation, but he's probably more right than wrong in how this turns out. The Ukrainians are fighting the good fight, but are losing ground, tens of thousands are evacuating and the situation continues to deteriorate.
    If they map looks the same 10 weeks from now that'll mean the Russians are losing. Highly unlikely. In the end they lose no matter what because occupation will prove to be the quicksand it always turns into for all occupiers. If Putin is smart he negotiates for the eastern territories which are pro Russian anyway, and he's made a statement to NATO that he won't lay down for their expansion. Sure his economy and people will suffer as a result of this, but since when do governments care about the suffering of their people. Look at the shitstorm we have created fighting a fabricated threat just to impose out own authoritarian government polices. Governments gonna government, the people be damned.
    If we're stupid, and god knows we Americans win the stupid contest hands down day in and day out, we intervene, Putin goes scorched earth and life as we know it changes bigtime, and it doesn't take nukes to accomplish that, although that a distinct possibility. Just hack the electrical grid, chaos ensues and our Humpty Dumpty system doesn't get put back together again fast enough to avoid Mad Max world.
     
    #1787     Mar 6, 2022
  8. Give Putin what he wants? Putin wants to rebuild and restore the USSR. Doesn't giving Putin carte blanche make a big problem become a bigger problem?
     
    #1788     Mar 6, 2022
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  9. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Just keeping it real here... had we started sending 100's of millions in arms to Ukraine back in Oct/Nov for a war that didn't exist, the Biden administration would have been raked over the coals. I can hear it now... "Billions in taxpayer dollars for weapons to Ukraine while our roads and bridges collapse from neglect...!" I mean you're damned if you do, damned if you don't. Both sides of the aisle.
     
    #1789     Mar 6, 2022
  10. That part is not going to work out for Vlad.

    He does not want an expansion of Nato membership but- Ukraine aside which will not be a member for a number of reasons including that it may no longer exist- Sweden and Finland are now having discussions in their Parliaments about joing Nato. And all of the existing Nato members in his neighborhood are going to triple, septuple, whatever their military strength in those regions. Not what he wanted. He wanted to either take all of Ukraine easily and quickly and just install a puppet, or in the alternative, if things got rough, to negotiate a settlement whereby Nato forces would scale down in the region and he would settle for that, plus a recognition of Russian breakaways and the Crimea.

    Everything has gone tits up though and blown wayyy past that. Chances of Ukraine prevailing are slim to none, but chances of Nato presence in his neigborhood being reduced are range from none to noner. Again, not what he wanted.
     
    #1790     Mar 6, 2022