Russia & Ukraine

Discussion in 'Politics' started by UsualName, Jan 18, 2022.

  1. That's a hell of a number in just two weeks, so I take that with a grain of salt. No doubt the fighting has been more intense than expected, but tens of thousand dead and wounded in two week? I would think we'd be seeing video evidence of some really furious toe to toe battles, not just tank and truck column wreckage. Anybody's guess at this point, but one thing for sure, it's going to get more intense from here as they start what appears to be a full scale artillery barrage of these cities.
     
    #2091     Mar 11, 2022
  2. Yep. He also requested troops from Kazakistan/sp and they said no- when Putin thought he could count on them.
     
    #2092     Mar 11, 2022
  3. UsualName

    UsualName

    This seems like very shaky info to me but if Putin is going to go down it will be either by the FSB or with the approval of the FSB. And that’s why I am iffy on this report. This stuff could have very easily been put out by anyone to sort create distrust in the Kremlin- which is a good thing but as I said iffy, IMO.
     
    #2093     Mar 11, 2022
  4. UsualName

    UsualName

    I posted this in another thread but it’s worth a read in relation to Russian columns:

     
    #2094     Mar 11, 2022
  5. terr

    terr

    Here are my calculations:

    1. Dead - Ukrainians say 12,000+. US CIA estimated 5-7000 a few days ago. UK intelligence thought 8,000. That's a few days ago, the numbers have gone up since then. So - let's say 7,500 dead
    2. The ratio of wounded to dead in most conflicts is 3.5 to 1. Let's take the low number. 3.5. That's 26,000 wounded
    3. Ukrainians report (they actually have names/ID numbers) 3,000 captured.

    Add it together.

    Again - 4 Russian one-star generals have been eliminated. More than a dozen colonels. You don't get such high numbers among top officers without the grunts being killed by thousands.
     
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    #2095     Mar 11, 2022
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  6. Yeh, I dunno about all the palace intrigues stuff. As Americans we always think that inner chaos leads to the tyrant being overthrown soon. If only.

    Having said that, I do believe his hands are sufficiently full now to make him think long and hard about moving on to take another country just yet- which is a desireable goal for Nato to achieve.
     
    #2096     Mar 11, 2022
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Just a matter of time before Russia undermines all of Europe including NATO nations unless the West takes firm action. Appeasing Putin only will embolden him to do more.

    Russia may pressure Serbia to undermine western Balkans, leaders warn
    Kosovo and Bosnia-Herzegovina urge western leaders to ‘engage more actively and strongly’ in the region
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...bia-to-undermine-western-balkans-leaders-warn
     
    #2097     Mar 11, 2022
  8. The problem too is those Russian casualties are not justifiable on the home front. Otherwise, the Russians are tough fighters when motivated and if you told Russians that they lost four times that amount defending the homeland, Mother Russia, it would motivate them even more. No one believes that shiite though, even in Russia, outside the trance-staters. They basically are trying to figure out what the frig Vlad is up to along with the rest of the world.
     
    #2098     Mar 11, 2022
  9. UsualName

    UsualName

    Ukraine is putting out information saying they expect the Belarusian military to attack Ukraine 9 pm tonight…
     
    #2099     Mar 11, 2022
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    #2100     Mar 11, 2022