SEC needs to shut down WSB and indict the instigators

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by longshort, Jan 28, 2021.

  1. Pronto24

    Pronto24

    SmallFil aka JEM is stuck in the 90’s.
     
    #11     Jan 28, 2021
  2. ktm

    ktm

    It always surprises me the number conspiracy theorists and anti hedge fund people posting here - not sure why, but you guys are supposed to be traders, right?

    I watched as Tucker Carlson tried to get Charles Payne to explain this to the public last night. They missed the ball pretty badly, but managed to get in some "stick it to the man" stuff that I keep seeing parroted all over. But who is "the man" today? Is it the gov't or the hedge funds? It seems to change depending on what's happening.

    Most of you guys know that thousands and thousands of reddit traders aren't going to blow through 40M shares of a stock trading at $350 in a day, much less the other names that are starting to tremor from short squeeze activity. There has been some media about a few of the players that are involved (Gabe at Melvin, Chanos & Ken Griffen to name a few) and throwing around billions trying to get on one side or another. Another article said BlackRock may have scored a few billion in the last week on GME. This may have started and may be getting egged on by the reddit folks, but they are far from the only ones playing this game. You have hedge funds getting hammered and others that are printing money, as always.

    It's always tempting for people to try and add a rule that "fixes" the current issue for the folks that don't like what's happening without considering that the new rule is going to make things worse for lots more people (with no nefarious intent) that are just trying to trade and make a few bucks.
     
    #12     Jan 28, 2021
  3. Yeah, someone from WSB called that bluff off as they didn't see any volume coming in that would confirm the operation.
     
    #13     Jan 28, 2021
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  4. Keep pushing until someone goes on cnbc and cry. I am just watching it all from the side.
     
    #14     Jan 28, 2021
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  5. bluelou

    bluelou

    Your point is a good one, but what happens with the SEC will likely hinge on 'intent'. That's something we don't fully understand yet. Was there an individual or group behind the manipulation and, if so, what was their interest in the scheme? The SEC won't hestitate if they think they have a case, they'll even go after kids. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Lebed
     
    #15     Jan 28, 2021
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  6. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    I doubt the SEC can prove that one or a small group of individuals had the intent to manipulate the market. Engineering s short squeeze is not illegal btw.
     
    #16     Jan 28, 2021
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  7. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Agree completely even if you did mention conspiracy theorists in the first sentence and Tucker in the next. :)
     
    #17     Jan 28, 2021
  8. virtusa

    virtusa

    The retailer is forbidden to make any money. The "professionals" are allowed to do anything to milk the retailers.

    So HFT should also hold their positions for 1 day??? That would be the end of HFT. HFT is even not able to make any money if they have to hold their positions for 15 minutes.
    That will never be accepted.
     
    #18     Jan 28, 2021
  9. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    I assume tucker blamed Obama for the gme rally

    or

    gme rally is proof that there was election fraud.
     
    #19     Jan 28, 2021
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  10. ElCubano

    ElCubano

    40 seconds avg hold time lol.
     
    #20     Jan 28, 2021
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