Societal collapse imminent?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by CaptainObvious, Jul 9, 2025.

  1. elderado

    elderado

    It won't matter. They still think the pee-pee tape is real, too.
     
    #31     Jul 9, 2025
  2. demoncore

    demoncore

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    #32     Jul 9, 2025
  3. Mercor

    Mercor

    I just think there should be enough to bully Trump without making up quotes
     
    #33     Jul 9, 2025
  4. mervyn

    mervyn

    did you watch the first 10 seconds? no one is making up things if there weren’t any consistent acts. taco is a disgusting liar, you know it.
     
    #34     Jul 9, 2025
  5. Do you think it's still preventable, or have we passed a tipping point, and what was that tipping point? Maybe a culmination of things with this latest fiasco just adding weight to an already in process collapse. The question being, how much weight can it hold before it passes the point of no return? Or maybe better put, no easy fix.
     
    #35     Jul 9, 2025
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  6. Ricter

    Ricter

    The tipping point was reached when H. sapiens' consumption and emission exceeded Earth's replenishment rate(s); the lasting degradation began there, though ofc at first it was minuscule. A small reversal of consumption and emission then would have righted the ship. Some say this was still possible as late as the 1970s.
    So in this sense we are already past the point of no return. Now it's time for dieback. I am convinced this could be managed to lessen the pain, to make it more just, but acknowledge that would require unprecedented courage.
     
    #36     Jul 10, 2025
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  7. I think that is a contributing factor, but not the only, or even the most significant one. We'll fall from other things long before the inevitable climate shift ever happens. I say inevitable because climate shifts have and will continue to happen without any human assistance. We ain't helping ourselves for sure, but that calamity is probably a long ways off. I think we suffer a devastating collapse within the next 5 years, maybe less.
     
    #37     Jul 10, 2025
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  8. Ricter

    Ricter

    I'm not talking about climate change, merely, as I view that problem as a symptom of overshoot. The most obvious immediate sign is the increasing struggle for resource flows, and yes, those are a cause of, and are themselves, societal collapse.
     
    #38     Jul 10, 2025
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  9. Had dinner last night with my East Coast liberal in-laws. We discussed this very issue. Availability of water, food and disposal of waste are the big problems to solve. I'm not so optimistic that can be solved in time to avoid calamity. My brother in law is. He has kids and grandchildren so I think his hope for their future skews him towards optimistic thinking.
    Of course the gang over at the Pentagon may decide a "limited nuclear war" is doable and then we won't have to worry about where the garbage is going.
     
    #39     Jul 12, 2025
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  10. Tuxan

    Tuxan

    Children are annoying the way they make you consider the larger consequences.
     
    #40     Jul 13, 2025