Solving SS spending from the NRA...

Discussion in 'Politics' started by bighog, Oct 23, 2013.

  1. Not outright lies but deception. Is it a just a gun? Or an assault rifle. Or just that particular assault rifle? Should deaths from car accidents even count? They are not intentional deaths, as are the deaths from malpractice not the same as someone being shot.

    So how it works in the weak easily deluded mind of the righty is that they now go around telling everyone that more people are killed by hammers than they are by guns. In fact I had this exact argument from a deluded ignorant righty relative at this summer's family reunion. He probably got his "facts" from a similar source like that stupid image that Luc posted. Righties don't have much critical thinking abilities or ability to discern the difference between what they want to hear and what is reality.
     
    #31     Oct 25, 2013

  2. And only a delusional ignorant righty thinks they can out-shoot a swat team because they have an AR15 or that US military would need to be or could be fought. This is just more evidence of the paranoid delusions that are always running in the background of an ignorant righty's brain
     
    #32     Oct 25, 2013

  3. Or set speed limits at zero to prevent car accidents. The idea of speed limits is so stupid.
     
    #33     Oct 25, 2013
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    Uh no Dick, no deflection just a relevant question.
     
    #34     Oct 25, 2013
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    That sounds about right. I've read those murders aside our gun homicide rate is comparable to other "civilized" nations.
     
    #35     Oct 25, 2013
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    Expect when they are. Ever hear of vehicular homicide?
    Rifles, the chart refers to only rifles.
     
    #36     Oct 25, 2013
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    Anyone of our resident anti-gun types ever ask why school boards and state legislators don't designate school zones as a violence free or murder free zones?

    Ya know, go ahead and solve the whole school mass murder thingy with one fell swoop?
     
    #37     Oct 25, 2013
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    #38     Oct 25, 2013
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    To prevent more soft-target terror attacks like the deadly Al Shabaab strike on Westgate Mall in Nairobi, Kenya, policymakers around the world should consider liberalizing their gun laws to allow for armed civilians, the head of the the world's largest international police institution argued in an interview with ABCNews.com earlier this week. Unfortunately a search of Nexis finds that ABC has ignored this news development on its on-air programming. Competitors NBC and CBS have likewise censored the story.

    As ABC's Josh Margolin noted, INTERPOL Secretary General Ronald Noble argued not only that an armed citizenry was a more sensible option than attempting to secure every "soft target" -- like malls, parks, and cafes -- but that it's hard to imagine a successful Westgate-style attack in the United States, particularly in gun rights-friendly states like Texas:

    "Societies have to think about how they're going to approach the problem," Noble said. "One is to say we want an armed citizenry; you can see the reason for that. Another is to say the enclaves are so secure that in order to get into the soft target you're going to have to pass through extraordinary security."

    Noble's comments came only moments after the official opening of the 82nd annual gathering of the Interpol's governing body, the General Assembly. The session is being held in Cartagena, Colombia, and is being used to highlight strides over the last decade in Colombia's battle against the notorious drug cartels that used to be the real power in the country.

    The secretary general, an American who previously headed up all law enforcement for the U.S. Treasury Department, told reporters during a brief news conference that the Westgate mall attack marks what has long been seen as "an evolution in terrorism." Instead of targets like the Pentagon and World Trade Center that now have far more security since 9/11, attackers are focusing on sites with little security that attract large numbers of people.

    At least 67 were killed over a period of days at the Westgate mall, more than 60 of the dead were civilians. The Somalia-based al Qaeda-allied terror group al-Shabab claimed responsibility for the attack as it was ongoing but investigators are still trying to determine exactly who planned the strike, where they are and what is next for them. U.S. authorities in Uganda, fearing another similar incident in Africa, issued a warning late last week.

    Citing a recent call for al Qaeda "brothers to strike soft targets, to do it in small groups," Noble said law enforcement is now facing a daunting task.

    "How do you protect soft targets? That's really the challenge. You can't have armed police forces everywhere," he told reporters. "It's Interpol's view that one way you protect soft targets is you make it more difficult for terrorist to move internationally. So what we're trying to do is to establish a way for countries … to screen passports, which are a terrorist's best friend, try to limit terrorists moving from country to country. And also, that we're able to share more info about suspected terrorists."

    In the interview with ABC News, Noble was more blunt and directed his comments to his home country.

    "Ask yourself: If that was Denver, Col., if that was Texas, would those guys have been able to spend hours, days, shooting people randomly?" Noble said, referring to states with pro-gun traditions. "What I'm saying is it makes police around the world question their views on gun control. It makes citizens question their views on gun control. You have to ask yourself, 'Is an armed citizenry more necessary now than it was in the past with an evolving threat of terrorism?' This is something that has to be discussed."

    "For me it's a profound question," he continued. "People are quick to say 'gun control, people shouldn't be armed,' etc., etc. I think they have to ask themselves: 'Where would you have wanted to be? In a city where there was gun control and no citizens armed if you're in a Westgate mall, or in a place like Denver or Texas?'"


    Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/ken-sh...-key-preventing-more-westwood-m#ixzz2ilhOZPGq
     
    #39     Oct 25, 2013
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    Great points, on NRA victory.

    Also you may want to factor in, on a TREND;
    chicago crooks, city of Chicago has a much higher death rate then most. Or as a Dem like Senator Max[Montana] said it[socialized med] is a train wreck.

    :cool:
     
    #40     Oct 26, 2013