TD Ameritrade stock price is down 21.63%

Discussion in 'Stocks' started by heispark, Oct 1, 2019.

  1. Baron

    Baron ET Founder

    They do but their buying power only amounts to about 20% of order flow payments. The rest comes from the exchanges.
     
    #11     Oct 1, 2019
  2. DaveV

    DaveV

    From CNBC this morning for Ameritrade:
    Total Revenue from trading commissions: 8%
    Total Revenue from interest on accounts: 57%
     
    #12     Oct 1, 2019
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  3. Baron

    Baron ET Founder

    Yeah, but that 8% is $700 million in yearly revenue that just went *poof*.
     
    #13     Oct 1, 2019
  4. S2007S

    S2007S


    Not as high as I thought. With only 8% of revenue derived from commissions they should have been the first to offer free trading as soon as they saw Robinhood as a threat. They would have probably opened up millions of accounts and made interest on money sitting in accounts . Too late now
     
    #14     Oct 1, 2019
  5. terr

    terr

    From https://www.amtd.com/news-and-stori...orts-Record-Fiscal-2018-Earnings/default.aspx

    For fiscal year 2018:

    Commissions: $1.51B ($7.45*202.8)
    Total operating income: $1.89B
    Net income: $1.47B

    Dropping commissions to 0 is going to HURT.
     
    #15     Oct 1, 2019
  6. lentus

    lentus

    is this merely a reaction to business model switch or could this be interpreted as the top of Levered (levered to historic levels currently) Retail trading which signals a market top?
     
    #16     Oct 1, 2019
  7. m22au

    m22au

    Wow I knew it was bad - but I didn't realise it was that bad.

    The 8% figure provided earlier in the thread does not sound accurate.

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    Most recent figures for Q3 ended 30 June 2019 here:
    https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1173431/000119312519198972/0001193125-19-198972-index.htm (index)
    https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1173431/000119312519198972/d780268dex991.htm (PR)

    For the quarter:
    51.9 million trades * $6.92 avg commission = $359.14 million

    For the quarter:
    Net revenues $1,491 million

    Operating expenses $771 million

    Operating income $720 million

    For a start, the $359 million is 24% of total revenue.

    If we reduce that to zero (and make no changes to anything else, such as higher order routing revenue), then the $359 million commissions is almost exactly half of their quarterly operating income.
     
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    #17     Oct 1, 2019
  8. m22au

    m22au

    #18     Oct 1, 2019
  9. Amahrix

    Amahrix

    Good ole’ competition. I like that.
     
    #19     Oct 1, 2019
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  10. Getting crazy with commissions dropping. With these free amazing platforms and soon to be zero commissions across the board its getting harder to make fat profits.
     
    #20     Oct 1, 2019