The CL/NQ experiment

Discussion in 'Journals' started by Gabe2004, Nov 20, 2013.

  1. I go by setups that show up on the 5min.
    The charts are 1min charts because Ninja puts the trade lines only in that time frame.

    Actually my back-testing showed that my system works best in trending markets but there are some days like today that the setups are scarce.
    I never thought of the idea that some aspect of trading can be too easy and thus I will not want to participate (lack of reward) but maybe you are right.

    Gabe
     
    #401     Jan 27, 2014
  2. From what I have see in CL so far it seems to frequently chop in zones for a while.. (NoDoji please comment) IF so looks like waiting for some structure to build, drawing lines, and when the convincing break happens THEN trade.. These lines HAVE to be of a minimum length though..

    What I am saying is a bar or 2 bar signal should only be taken IF there is broken structure OR a reversal off SOMETHING drawn on the chart..

    Maybe I can go back to daytrading.. make a fortune!... :p NOT!
     
    #402     Jan 27, 2014
  3. That is amazing. What about the Green outside bar around 10:30 on the 5m chart? Could be NoDoji's 2nd Mouse area.
     
    #403     Jan 27, 2014
  4. I looked at it but it did not meet the setup requirements fully so I did nothing.

    Gabe
     
    #404     Jan 27, 2014
  5. Vol=volatility.

    Anyone looking at your trades can see your stops are too tight. You seem to be trading some sort of pulback entry, but that often puts you into a congestion zone, just like rashid observed. If you are entering in congestion, you have to have stops outside the congestion zone or you will get knocked out way too often.

    JMO obviously, but I can read a chart.
     
    #405     Jan 28, 2014
  6. Yes, exactly. He is doing everything backwards.

    The typical newbie mistake is to try to trade the countertrend. It seems safer, but of course it is thin ice. Gabe does not seem to be doing that, but it seems to me his entries and his stop placement are not on the same page.
     
    #406     Jan 28, 2014
  7. I mainly trade off the 5min chart and my initial stop is 11 cents as that is what I arrived at looking at historical MAE.
    These stops are adjusted to the extreme of the entry bar.
    Yesterday may have been an exception.
    I am investigating and I have made some observations but I want to re-check them.

    Gabe
     
    #407     Jan 28, 2014
  8. The following chart is showing my placement of entries and stops.

    Gabe
     
    #408     Jan 28, 2014
  9. 1 min chart of the above post.

    Gabe
     
    #409     Jan 28, 2014
  10. So that worked out great for you. Are you still in the trade?

    In general, I think stops are not a good way to exit. They are the last resort, insurance against a breakdown in discipline or something unexpected. I would prefer to dump a trade when the entry conditions have been disproved or violated. For example, if entry is crossing a MA, then a recross invalidates the trade.
     
    #410     Jan 28, 2014