The Democratic Recriminations

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  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #41     Nov 15, 2024
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    #42     Nov 16, 2024
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    #43     Nov 17, 2024
  4. gwb-trading

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    #44     Nov 18, 2024
  5. ipatent

    ipatent

  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #46     Nov 18, 2024
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Let's see what Bernie has to say...

    Sanders: Democrats can’t ‘hang your hat’ on identity politics
    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4992835-sanders-democrats-working-class-issues/

    Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) said Democrats lost the 2024 presidential election because they relied too much on talking about race, gender and sexual orientation, warning that candidates shouldn’t “hang your hat” on identity politics.


    Sanders, a progressive independent who caucuses with Senate Democrats, said Vice President Harris didn’t spend enough time talking about how to help working-class Americans by raising the minimum wage and lowering the cost of health care.

    And while he said Democrats deserve a lot of credit for fighting against racism and promoting women’s rights and gay rights, that wasn’t enough to win over the many Black and Latino working-class voters who supported Trump.

    “You can say, ‘Look, isn’t great that we have in fact a very smart and effective Black woman who’s on the Supreme Court?’ Great. But you don’t hang your hat on that,” Sanders said, referring to President Biden’s appointment of Ketanji Brown Jackson as the first Black woman on the Supreme Court.

    “What you also want to do is talk about the reality of what’s going on in the African-American community all over this country,” he said.

    Sanders made his comments in an interview with Michael Barbaro, the co-host of The New York Times podcast “The Daily.”

    The Vermont senator faulted Harris for not talking more about wages and the cost of health care during her presidential campaign.

    “What is the vision of the Democratic Party? Who is the Democratic Party taking on?” he asked.

    “What were they going to do to address the fact that so many people in America are struggling? Does it have anything to do with the greed of corporate America? The fact that you have a billionaire class that wants it all, they want to own the political system? Does anybody really talk about the degree to which the people on top own this country and want more and more and couldn’t give a damn about ordinary Americans?” he asked.

    Sanders isn’t happy that billionaires such as Bill Gates, the co-founder of Microsoft, and Reid Hoffman, the co-founder of LinkedIn, spent millions of dollars to support Harris, which he believes gave them too much influence over her campaign agenda.

    “Will the big money interests and well-paid consultants who control the Democratic Party learn any real lessons from this disastrous campaign?” Sanders asked in a statement issued last week reacting to President-elect Trump’s victory.
     
    #47     Nov 18, 2024
  8. elderado

    elderado

    Liberalism is a mental disorder.

     
    #48     Nov 19, 2024
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  9. I think Sanders left off the fact that people are also tired of listening to rich Bernie Sanders lecture everyone on what they should do as though he is not a part of the problem as well. trump won by spreading a false message that dems want a socialist state and bernie keeps banging on rich corporate america and helping the poor... he is just as tone deaf.

    He is the leader of the progressive movement which has been proven time and time again does not have enough of a foothold to push a far left agenda, so he has to meet everyone in the middle.

    We are either a capitalist country or we are not. Outside of monopolies and price gouging, you cannot just contantly claim corporations and the rich are the bad guys (Sanders net worth is over $3 million) and use words like corporate greed to get a base riled up. If Bernie is to win an election he would need support from those billionaires to do so, plain and simple.

    He is a broken record and this should be the last election he gets air time.... free education, universal health care, programs for the poor....sounds great....not gonna happen simply by saying we will heavily tax the rich.
     
    #49     Nov 20, 2024
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  10. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Meanwhile, some folks on the left still feel like Trump is "coming to get them".

     
    #50     Nov 20, 2024