The meaning of risk. What does risk mean to you?

Discussion in 'Risk Management' started by Amahrix, Sep 20, 2019.

  1. virtusa

    virtusa

    Quantify your risk is indeed very difficult.

    There are many factors that have influence on your risk:
    • product traded
    • leverage
    • average profit
    • average loss
    • stops
    • do you always follow your rules for 100%
    • can you be concentrated from start till finish
    • can you get emotional or panic
    • etc...
    The best way to calculate your risk is to take your trackrecord and use that as in your real trading all the factors that have impact are present in a real situation.

    Theoretical risk reward calculations are not reliable as you can never correctly calculate the impact of every factor.

    Theoretical calculations always assume you do what you have to do when you have to do it. Reality is almost never like that.
     
    #31     Nov 19, 2020
  2. deaddog

    deaddog

    Taking historical risk reward is still theoretical. Past performance disclaimer.

    Too many factors can effect your plan but you have to start somewhere. Better than have no plan at all.
    It is called discipline. Successful trades don't always have a good outcome.
     
    #32     Nov 19, 2020
  3. virtusa

    virtusa

    In your historical risk reward are the most difficult factors to calculate incorporated.
    You can at least see how you handle in reality respecting stops, following the rules, concentration, emotions... So the non mathematical things.

    Discipline is where most people have problems with, I think. Unless you are fully automated.
     
    #33     Nov 19, 2020
  4. deaddog

    deaddog

    Once you get comfortable with taking losses it doesn't become such a problem.

    You know you are going to get whipsawed. If you take small losses the trade may recover right after you close your position. Or maybe it won't. If you take small losses you won't take big losses.

    I know; death by 1000 cuts; but if your system has a positive expectancy with a decent risk/reward ratio you will eventually come out on top. You have to trust your system.
     
    #34     Nov 19, 2020
  5. kroxobor

    kroxobor

    You are faced with the two options:

    Lose $10000 with a probability of 0.02
    Lose $420 with a probability of 0.5

    Which one would you choose? :D

    Which is more important: risk or perception of risk?
     
    #35     Nov 23, 2020
  6. deaddog

    deaddog

    I need more information before I make that decision.
    How much do I win?
    What is my account size?
     
    #36     Nov 23, 2020
  7. Rodrigo_1

    Rodrigo_1

    Everyone faces some risk while trading, but those who succeed at handling it well, get success in long term here.
     
    #37     Nov 30, 2020
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  8. Riley.R

    Riley.R

    True, a sound risk management strategy is a must for profitable trading.
     
    #38     Dec 17, 2020
  9. Jaagup

    Jaagup

    Risk is inherited in each trade you take, but as long as you can measure risk you can manage it.
     
    #39     Dec 18, 2020
  10. For me, risk means a way to improve my trading. It is obvious that I may face risk somewhere, this will help me in ensuring that whether I am on the right path or not.
     
    #40     Feb 1, 2021