The race to zero in endless online brokerage-fee war already has been won

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by JefeTrader, May 16, 2017.

  1. sle

    sle

    Well, the money comes in payments for flow, obviously. In the more volatile markets that flow will be worth even more.
     
    #11     May 16, 2017
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  2. sss12

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    #12     May 16, 2017
  3. sss12

    sss12

    Millennials with 5k trading off their phone. Now let them borrow 50% w/ leverage....ending badly may turn out to be a major understatement.
     
    #13     May 16, 2017
  4. sss12

    sss12

    @sle....totally understand the lending model (huge push at the wire houses) but is payment for flow enough to sustain an on going brokerage with all the current regulatory costs, etc ? Thanks
     
    #14     May 16, 2017
  5. sle

    sle

    Margin and other stuff is nice, but not enough. What really makes the mint is that HFT firms pay them to route their orders to them (aka as "pay for flow").

    Here is their SEC Rule 606 Report Disclosure, last page has the details of how much they get paid for orders:
    https://d2ue93q3u507c2.cloudfront.net/assets/robinhood/legal/RHF PFO Disclosure.pdf
     
    #15     May 16, 2017
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  6. sss12

    sss12

    Amazing that with all the bs about transparancy, etc a business model can run off behind the scene order flow. Guess there is nothing wrong with it as long as it is fully disclosed.
     
    #16     May 16, 2017
  7. sle

    sle

    #17     May 16, 2017
  8. sss12

    sss12

    Thanks for info, didn't know it was so profitable. "100% of orders undirected". What ! People trading off their phone aren't routing their orders ! LOL
     
    #18     May 16, 2017
  9. sss12

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    #19     May 16, 2017
  10. sss12

    sss12

    @sle....so if HFT was curbed or regulated it would severely hinder this brokerage model ?
     
    #20     May 16, 2017