The rare good law from a red state.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Tony Stark, Jan 4, 2023.

  1. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    Statues of your racist terrorists fought to keep black people as slaves heros need to continue coming down Vanny:rolleyes:

    If not lets put up statues of all the other military leaders and presidents who killed hundreds of thousands of US troops.
     
    #11     Jan 7, 2023
  2. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    I wasn't alive then, but refresh my memory here.... which party was it that did all that again? I heard on TV the other day it was the same party that backed Jim Crow, AND the Klan.
    Is that true? Hillary did seem to have a rather found affection for that Senator from WV. The Grand Wizard or whatever his title was.

    Whatever. We've made, and continue to make, great progress in this country. In 200 years we'll all be the same color I bet. Then what will we find to hate each other and fight about?
    I'm sure they'll figure something out.
     
    #12     Jan 8, 2023
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  3. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    White racist conservatives from the southern confederate states.
     
    #13     Jan 9, 2023
  4. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    Unlike most racists from the confederate south, Byrd changed




    Byrd's views changed considerably over the course of his life; by the early 2000s, he had completely renounced racism and segregation

    However, during his campaign for the United States House of Representatives in 1952, he announced that, "after about a year, I became disinterested, quit paying my dues, and dropped my membership in the organization", and that during the nine years that have followed, he had never been interested in the Klan.[35] He said he had joined the Klan because he felt it offered excitement and was anti-communist, but also suggested his participation there "reflected the fears and prejudices" of the time.[16][33] Byrd later called joining the KKK "the greatest mistake I ever made."[7] In 1997, he told an interviewer he would encourage young people to become involved in politics but also warned, "Be sure you avoid the Ku Klux Klan. Don't get that albatross around your neck. Once you've made that mistake, you inhibit your operations in the political arena."[36] In his last autobiography, Byrd explained that he was a KKK member because he "was sorely afflicted with tunnel vision— a jejune and immature outlook—seeing only what I wanted to see because I thought the Klan could provide an outlet for my talents and ambitions."[37] Byrd also said in 2005, "I know now I was wrong. Intolerance had no place in America. I apologized a thousand times ... and I don't mind apologizing over and over again. I can't erase what happened.


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    #14     Jan 9, 2023
  5. You might have slept through U.S. history classes that covered U.S. politics in the 1950s through the 1970s where the South underwent a political shift or are you making the claim that the South has been Blue for the past 100 years? Find me a political map the last time the South voted Blue en masse in a presidential election....

    Byrd was a racist and HRC kissing up is typical politics...why are you surprised and clutching yoir pearls?

    Nothing you said changes the fact that traitor racists whose statutes were mostly put up by racists organizations should not be honored the same as U.S. military heroes who defended the country. Leave them in museums/history where they belong.


    In American politics, the Southern strategy was a Republican Party electoral strategy to increase political support among white voters in the South by appealing to racism against African Americans.[1][2][3] As the civil rights movement and dismantling of Jim Crow laws in the 1950s and 1960s visibly deepened existing racial tensions in much of the Southern United States, Republican politicians such as presidential candidate Richard Nixon and Senator Barry Goldwater developed strategies that successfully contributed to the political realignment of many white, conservative voters in the South who had traditionally supported the Democratic Party. It also helped to push the Republican Party much more to the right relative to the 1950s.[4]

    Does.not mean the GOP is racist....just political history shows how the white Southern voting block shifted over to Republicans when they were not happy with losing their segregated society and GOP tapped.into that to win the Southern voting blocks which were primarily white. It was a party ahift that helped GOP win in 1968 and continues to today.
     
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    #15     Jan 9, 2023
  6. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    I could care less about statues Ocho.
    But fwiw... how many of the Union generals were involved in slaying Native Americans? Quite a few I bet.
    You got the "sleeping in history" part right though. You nailed that one. :D
     
    #16     Jan 9, 2023
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    Tony Stark

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    #17     Jan 9, 2023
  8. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    And unlike you, VZ promotes "reasonable discussion".
    And tbh, I do think those statues can be offensive to some, and they should come down.
    I have listened to all sides for however long this has been going on, I've spoken with friends, so yeah.
    What's stupid is the rabidity topics like this are addressed by millennial and Gen X extremists who are more than likely, complete losers in their own lives.
     
    #18     Jan 9, 2023
  9. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    What's stupid is the rabidity topics like this are repeatedly brought up by losers who support keeping up statues of the racists terrorists losers who are more than likely, complete losers in their own lives which is why they are and support white supremacy and white supremacy heros like the confederacy because the white skin they are born with is the only thing that makes them feel like winners.
     
    #19     Jan 9, 2023
  10. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    There's complete losers on both sides Tony. You should strive to not fall into that category. Sometimes I wonder...
     
    #20     Jan 9, 2023