The US is now in recession

Discussion in 'Economics' started by earth_imperator, May 13, 2023.

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  2. Innervoice

    Innervoice

    Wall street/ stocks says otherwise.
    Then again, how much longer can stocks defy gravity because their earnings were “ better than feared”??
     
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  3. Your statement contradict the title of the news. Both are talking of stocks, ie. companies, corporations. But both you and them cannot be true as your both statements contradict each other.
    For me, the Bloomberg news is more credible than your own opinion w/o any hard facts.
     
  4. smallfil

    smallfil

    We are just at the start of a recession the way I see it. Companies are not done laying off people. I do agree there is a disconnect between reality and what hacks on CNBC, Bloomberg tell you. What they tell you is everything is hunky dory. Those are the talking points scripted to lull the public. Like a crab on his back in a pot of water, he does not notice until the water gets hotter and hotter then, he panics and tries to save himself but, it is too late. He is lunch or dinner on someone's plate.
     
  5. S&P 500 all time high adjusted for the inflation over the last 17 months, is probably something like 5300.

    So the S&P is currently still down over 20% on an inflation adjusted basis.

    Bear Market.
     
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  6. mervyn

    mervyn

    Negative, 19 mega cap stocks pushed up nearly 80% of SPX movements, rest of them are flat or lower.

    Earning recession is 2 quarters already, however negative 2 GDP quarters may not be happening unless there is a labor market crash.
     
  7. notagain

    notagain

    The Fed is making sure there is never a wage price spiral ever again.
    Raising interest rates into a recession is pure brilliance.
    Disposable income is the enemy of democracy, Dems say.
     
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  8. mervyn

    mervyn

    No Fed doesn’t have that much power. It is the market. UK last quarter GDP is -0.3%, not sure they will have 2 consecutive quarters. Commodities, particularly foods are going up.
     
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  10. 15 stocks account for 97% of the price gain in S&P as of last week
     
    #10     May 13, 2023
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