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Discussion in 'Options' started by shMark, Feb 13, 2024.

  1. wxytrader

    wxytrader

    It is a bearish play lol as I have explained.
    No sellers don't care so much about spread or fees because we are receiving a credit...the buyer is opening a debit and must overcome all of these things to turn it into a credit.

    I don't know why you and D have such a hard time grasping probability of P/L. Maybe you should both refresh yourselves with the basics reading the Larry McMillan book.
     
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    #61     Feb 16, 2024
  2. taowave

    taowave

    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!

    So transaction costs,slippage have no bearing on selling premium...

    Realised vol vs Implied vs Forcast vol has no bearing on the trade..

    Probabilty of P/L??? Read up on William Eckhardt
     
    #62     Feb 16, 2024
  3. wxytrader

    wxytrader

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    #63     Feb 16, 2024
  4. taowave

    taowave

    Im not debating buying premium vs selling, what you dont grasp is option pricing,fair value, distributions and expected return .

    Your "way" of trading is limited by capital restraints, and the fact that you are soley attempting to maximize the likelihood of making money..

    You will never grow your account in a meaningful way







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    #64     Feb 16, 2024
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  5. wxytrader

    wxytrader

    How do you quantify expected returns?
     
    #65     Feb 16, 2024
  6. wxytrader

    wxytrader


    There is no way to know what fair value is until after the option expires. Until then, buyers and sellers grapple over price based on ATR/SD from the recent price action...unless there is some known catalyst upcoming.

    I doubt me or you are going to price options better than the market. Since option prices are derived from Volatility/standard deviation and strike price, some simple math will verify if the price is fair.
     
    #66     Feb 16, 2024
  7. taowave

    taowave

    Sure,there are simpler methods,but you will need some method of forcast vol,which could be a guestimate...

    Here is what I know for sure. You are not,and you will not make real money with your approach.
    Best case scenario,you ride the bull and grind out a couple of pennies..

    Good luck with that






     
    #67     Feb 16, 2024
  8. wxytrader

    wxytrader

    Yeah so basically you are looking at past trends to derive future price. The problem is even if you know how much price moves in comparison to how much IV changes...you still don't know what IV will be.

    You might as well just look at Bollinger bands.

    ("an historical"...I notice people are starting to drop the "N" but I will not accept it!)
     
    #68     Feb 16, 2024
  9. taowave

    taowave

    LOL....Yes,you should look at Bollinger bands...

    You have all the answers,but no trading capital..funny how that works

     
    #69     Feb 16, 2024
  10. wxytrader

    wxytrader

    You don't even know what my approach is lol.
     
    #70     Feb 16, 2024