Trading bitcoin via mstr in 2025

Discussion in 'Crypto Assets' started by johnarb, Jan 18, 2025.

  1. wxytrader

    wxytrader

    Yeah maybe a month ago...leap options are 138% more expensive than they were relative to then.
     
    #151     May 11, 2025
  2. johnarb

    johnarb

    Usually provide an update on the changes after Friday's close, but given recent news of Coinbase being added to the S&P 500 and the stock reaction (very positive), I have made changes

    Latest positions (still not including the mstr call options purchased from last year)
    • mstr sept 2025 call options, way out of the money strike price (position 1 of 2)
    • mstr sept 2025 call options, way out of the money strike price (position 2 of 2)
    • mstr dec 2025 call options
    • asst shares (sold 80% of the position)

    Sold the CEP dec 2025 call options. mstr Sept call options are 2 different strike prices

    Title of the thread is more appropriate again

    I have a strong feeling and also from reading all the positive info from Twitter mstr experts, that mstr will be added to the S&P 500 before end of July 2025

    As such, buying mstr call options

    mstr is twice the market cap of Coinbase before Coin was announced to be added to the S&P 500

    Means twice as much buying pressure from all the funds tracking the S&P 500

    And bitcoin going up above this $100k level to $120-$130-$150k in the next 3 months is also rocket fuel for mstr regardless of S&P inclusion

    reminder: there is no financial advice on this thread,

    Maybe tis the reason mstr is deleveraging, and NOT issuing convertible debt to buy bitcoin every week


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    Last edited: May 14, 2025
    #152     May 14, 2025
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  3. johnarb

    johnarb

    Things are not looking good at the moment in the markets, US 10yr above 4.5% again, and 30yr about to cross 5% again,

    but just a little bit daydreaming of the mstr inclusion to the S&P 500 gives me some hope... what ifs can be a motivation

    Coinbase is not part of the Nasdaq 100 but mstr is


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    #153     May 15, 2025
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  4. Sprout

    Sprout

    Missed the Metaplanet MTPLF launch to the moon, feeling the FOMO vibes.

    As for the US Bitcoin Strategic Reserve, isn't that 'just sayin' that the BTC seized by the U.S. Marshall's service won't be auctioned off?
     
    #154     May 20, 2025
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  5. johnarb

    johnarb

    I'm also feeling the fomo especially since it's my laziness and impatience in waiting for fund transfer to a new account,

    but I think I'm still going to get a couple of thousand shares even as it has already more than doubled since I mentioned it here

    imho, it still has >5000% ahead of it,

    why?

    Japan is going through some kind of financial crisis, their long term bonds are 40 year high, some are record highs, and metaplanet is doing more volume than the most popular Japanese company, i.e. Nintendo

    Also, as metaplanet is now listed in the US, it might also be available in Germany, it is able to siphon capital from other countries and investors

    Also, Capital Group that is an early investor to mstr, just purchased 5% of metaplanet

    no financial advise of course

    On the subject of the SBR for the USG, I just wait until they actually start buying, if not, there are many that are buying now, putting a good price support for bitcoin over 12 days above $100k, it's normalized now




     
    Last edited: May 20, 2025
    #155     May 20, 2025
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  6. johnarb

    johnarb

    Latest positions (still not including the mstr call options purchased from last year)
    • mstr sept 2025 call options, #1
    • mstr sept 2025 call options, #2
    • mstr dec 2025 call options
    • asst shares (increased number of shares)
    • gme call options Jan 2026
    • mtplf shares (small portion of the funds were cleared, still awaiting for most of the funds to clear next week)
    Not including the msty shares, those are not for trading, but for income

    Waiting for bitcoin price to go up a lot, above $130k for these positions to be in good profits
     
    #156     May 24, 2025
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  7. johnarb

    johnarb

    Not much changes, the mtplf funds in the new brokerage cleared and got the full position on mtplf

    GME bitcoin purchase announcement was disappointing, $500M out of the $1.5B convertible bond issuance...

    I have considered selling the GME call options and purchase more msty for dividend this coming week, but decided to hold the GME call options , there will be an earnings release soon, possibly next week or the week after
     
    #157     Jun 1, 2025
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  8. wxytrader

    wxytrader

    I take it back...your timing is impeccable when buying at the top lol. You totally chased ath's almost perfectly! You posted this on May24...on May23 bitcoin was
    111,679.36, 111,798.91, 106,841.30, 107,287.80...did you at least buy at the close????

    Chat gpt says:

    You likely bought on May 23, right after Bitcoin hit $112K. Even if you got in at the $107K close, delta took a major hit—because you entered during a multi-day rally, just before a sharp reversal from the ATH. Delta was elevated, then collapsed as price dropped.

    Now that we’re back at $107K, your options probably still haven’t recovered—because they were priced at the top of the curve, where both delta and IV compressed on the way down.
     
    Last edited: Jun 27, 2025
    #158     Jun 27, 2025
  9. wxytrader

    wxytrader

    I posted months ago that MSTR was getting diluted up the wasu — crickets.

    You even tried to spin dilution as “part of the system” to fund more Bitcoin buys.

    Now your buddy drops a lame haiku attempt about selling, and suddenly it’s worth talking about?
     
    Last edited: Jun 27, 2025
    #159     Jun 27, 2025
  10. johnarb

    johnarb

    lol, you are a real troll, waxy :D

    keep living vicariously, since you never bought bitcoin or any investments or a Lambo :D

    please keep posting , your bullshits are sometimes funny :D
     
    #160     Jun 27, 2025