Trading for People who have a Job

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Spaghetti Code, Jan 26, 2021.

  1. fan27

    fan27

    I am in the same situation and run fully automated futures strategies. The initial setup is quite labor intensive and probably not the best approach for most traders. Plenty of opportunities looking at daily charts.
     
    #11     Jan 26, 2021
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  2. R1234

    R1234

    Why not try end of month trading of Fidelity sector funds? Relative strength ranking strategies work on those. Position adjustments can be made on the night of the last day of the month for execution on the next day's NAV.
     
    #12     Jan 26, 2021
  3. Turveyd

    Turveyd

    Stocks and Swing as others say.

    Riding Trends best bet.

    So look for Nasdaq Trend, we'll say up.

    Then look at Sectors find 2/3rds upward, 1/3rd downward.

    Then look for strong stocks in upward sector and go long and vice versa.

    The 1/3rd shorts are your protection, bad day they'll rock and compensate for the longs being kicked.

    Flip if it's a bearish downward market ofcourse.

    Used to work for me, that's your weekends gone, checking charts mind :)
     
    #13     Jan 26, 2021
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  4. bone

    bone

    I have had a hundred clients with businesses and high level professions.

    And we model longer term data and swing trade.
    In my case it’s futures spreads, but outright micro futures and modest blocks of equities and options are also great swing trading products.

    The trick for swing trading is to start off with ridiculously small risk - once you gain consistency and confidence it is really easy to lever up.

    Swing Trading >> Model Long Term >> Small Sizing >> Set Profit and Stop-Loss Levels That Allow the Position a Chance to Perform
     
    #14     Jan 26, 2021
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  5. kmiklas

    kmiklas

    Anything short-term and you're up against the algos from Citadel, Renaissance, et alia. It's a 50/50 gamble at best. You have no idea what these algos will calculate and execute.

    It's tough man... like playing chess against a top-rated computer program.

    These voracious algos greedily consume every fraction of alpha available. News parsers, ULL data links, Colos... and you're at the bottom of the pile.
     
    #15     Jan 26, 2021
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  6. bone

    bone

    And I think that is where Swing Trading has a place. A good legit swing trading system should be rather immune to the stacking, spoofing, flipping, and front running antics of the algos and bots.

     
    #16     Jan 26, 2021
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  7. VEGASDESERT

    VEGASDESERT

    Learn to program or trade the daily charts.
     
    #17     Jan 26, 2021
  8. Lots of good advise already.
    You can trade Forex markets at anytime, the openings are all around the world/clock and will have good price action. Some people don't recommend it for beginners, so try to paper trade first if you go that route.
     
    #18     Jan 26, 2021
  9. kmiklas

    kmiklas

    You think? These guys have picked apart the standard swing-trading solutions and can move a price to where a probability model shows that n% of the peeps will buy in, and then sell out. Basically a pump n' dump in a swing timeframe.
     
    #19     Jan 26, 2021
  10. bone

    bone

    From my own personal perspective - for example on a stock like Gamestop, I would have been out long before the blowoff. o_O Reason being, I'm modeling historical data so I'm out way before some insane 100 percent run-up. And that has it's downsides and it's upsides but that's what works best for me.

     
    #20     Jan 26, 2021