UK deal, according to these guys.....

Discussion in 'Politics' started by S2007S, May 9, 2025.

  1. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opin...2b4f7cb7dd64928b95bf0676dbda298&ei=56#details

    Your obsessive "on point rhetoric" is anti-trump. Do you sleep, dream, live, yap all day long; Trump this...Trump that...oh Trump?

    If your beloved Canada doesn't repent of their unfairness and make a fair deal then I imagine after a few more years of economic Canadian quagmire you just might be moving yourself back to the good Ole USA.

    For your info Nato has never ever saved our ass. We have saved Nato's ass. Now if we can just get out of Nato and the UN they will have to save their own asses.

    I doubt the world would consider attacking us. Watch the video link to educate yourself.
     
    #71     May 11, 2025
  2. See all you anti-Trumpers later. Bye bye boys. Argue among yourselves and continue affirming your ridiculous beliefs and spoutings of mis-information.
    Lol. Carry on as you wish. ROFLMAO..ROFLMAO...ROFLMAO

    Bye bye bye bye ADIOS
     
    #72     May 11, 2025
  3. Tuxan

    Tuxan

    The US is the only NATO member to invoke article 5. Egit.

    Ah well, whatever made you the man you are not, enjoy mother's day, happy or reflective.
     
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    #73     May 11, 2025
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  4. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    NATO saving the United States ass involved NATO AWACS patrolling the skies of the United States while our elite Airborne Ranger units were preparing for covert missions abroad...Gulf War and IRAQ (after 9/11).

    President George Bush personally thanked the pilots of those NATO AWACS with the members of elite Airborne Rangers on the deck of the USS Abraham Lincoln Aircraft Carrier off the California coast when he said the famous words...Mission Accomplished.

    Without the intelligence and protection of the NATO AWACS...American lives would have been lost because our elite units often do not have protection on the ground during their covert missions.

    More importantly, the AWACS patrol the airspace of the United States of America as part of the U.S. air defense system to protect our military bases and civilians in the United States while we are abroad engaging in war.

    I was fortunate to meet the wife of one of those NATO AWACS pilots who moved to the United States when he retired instead of him moving to her country.

    She works at the Edward Hines Jr. VA Hospital in Illinois. It's the hospital I prefer to use for my annual physicals as a U.S. military veteran. I won't say what department at the hospital she works in but I will say she loves talking about traveling in Europe (our favorite vacation places) and the first time I mentioned "sentries patrolling the skies"...

    She immediately knew what I was talking about and said her retired husband (Air Force) was a pilot of one of those E-3 AWACS cargo planes. I told her to tell her husband I said Thank You for protecting my friends, family, Fort Campbell, and all Americans during the war.

    Always with a smile, she replies Thank You Captain and then immediately talks about her next vacation to Europe.

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    Invocation of Article 5

    The 9/11 terrorist attacks

    The United States was the object of brutal terrorist attacks on 11 September 2001. The Alliance's 1999 Strategic Concept had already identified terrorism as one of the risks affecting NATO’s security. The Alliance’s response to 9/11, however, saw NATO engage actively in the fight against terrorism, launch its first operations outside the Euro-Atlantic area and begin a far-reaching transformation of its capabilities. Moreover, it led NATO to invoke Article 5 of the North Atlantic Treaty for the very first time in its history.

    An act of solidarity

    On the evening of 12 September 2001, less than 24 hours after the attacks, the Allies invoked the principle of Article 5. Then NATO Secretary General Lord Robertson subsequently informed the Secretary-General of the United Nations of the Alliance's decision.

    The North Atlantic Council – NATO’s principal political decision-making body – agreed that if it determined that the attack was directed from abroad against the United States, it would be regarded as an action covered by Article 5. On 2 October, once the Council had been briefed on the results of investigations into the 9/11 attacks, it determined that they were regarded as an action covered by Article 5.

    By invoking Article 5, NATO members showed their solidarity toward the United States and condemned, in the strongest possible way, the terrorist attacks against the United States.

    Taking action

    After 9/11, there were consultations among the Allies and collective action was decided by the Council. The United States could also carry out independent actions, consistent with its rights and obligations under the United Nations Charter.

    On 4 October, once it had been determined that the attacks came from abroad, NATO agreed on a package of eight measures to support the United States. On the request of the United States, it launched its first ever anti-terror operation – Eagle Assist – from mid-October 2001 to mid-May 2002.

    It consisted in seven NATO AWACS radar aircraft that helped patrol the skies over the United States; in total 830 crew members from 13 NATO countries flew over 360 sorties. This was the first time that NATO military assets were deployed in support of an Article 5 operation.

    https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_48904.htm

    On 26 October, the Alliance launched its second counter-terrorism operation in response to the attacks on the United States, Operation Active Endeavour. Elements of NATO's Standing Naval Forces were sent to patrol the Eastern Mediterranean and monitor shipping to detect and deter terrorist activity, including illegal trafficking. In March 2004, the operation was expanded to include the entire Mediterranean.

    https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_7932.htm

    The eight measures to support the United States, as agreed by NATO were:
    • to enhance intelligence-sharing and cooperation, both bilaterally and in appropriate NATO bodies, relating to the threats posed by terrorism and the actions to be taken against it;
    • to provide, individually or collectively, as appropriate and according to their capabilities, assistance to Allies and other countries which are or may be subject to increased terrorist threats as a result of their support for the campaign against terrorism;
    • to take necessary measures to provide increased security for facilities of the United States and other Allies on their territory;
    • to backfill selected Allied assets in NATO’s area of responsibility that are required to directly support operations against terrorism;
    • to provide blanket overflight clearances for the United States and other Allies’ aircraft, in accordance with the necessary air traffic arrangements and national procedures, for military flights related to operations against terrorism;
    • to provide access for the United States and other Allies to ports and airfields on the territory of NATO member countries for operations against terrorism, including for refuelling, in accordance with national procedures;
    • that the Alliance is ready to deploy elements of its Standing Naval Forces to the Eastern Mediterranean in order to provide a NATO presence and demonstrate resolve;
    • that the Alliance is similarly ready to deploy elements of its NATO Airborne Early Warning Force to support operations against terrorism.
    Enhanced collective defence measures

    Although NATO Allies have only invoked Article 5 once, they have coordinated collective defence measures on several occasions.

    On the request of Türkiye, on three occasions, NATO has put collective defence measures in place:
    • in 1991 with the deployment of Patriot missiles during the Gulf War,
    • in 2003 with the agreement on a package of defensive measures and conduct of Operation Display Deterrence during the crisis in Iraq, and
    • in 2012 in response to the situation in Syria with the deployment of Patriot missiles.
    Following Russia’s illegal annexation of Crimea in 2014 and the rise of security challenges from the south, including brutal attacks by ISIL and other terrorist groups across several continents, NATO implemented the biggest increase in collective defence since the Cold War.

    For instance, it tripled the size of the NATO Response Force (NRF), a highly ready and technologically advanced multinational force; established a 5,000-strong Spearhead Force within the NRF; and deployed multinational battlegroups in Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Poland. NATO also increased its presence in the southeast of the Alliance, centred on a multinational brigade in Romania.

    The Alliance further stepped up air policing over the Baltic and Black Sea areas and continues to develop key military capabilities, such as Joint Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance. At the 2016 Warsaw Summit, Allies recognised cyberspace as a new operational domain, to enable better protection of networks, missions and operations.

    At their meeting in November 2019, NATO Foreign Ministers agreed to recognise space as a new operational domain, to "allow NATO planners to make requests for Allies to provide capabilities and services, such as hours of satellite communications."

    wrbtrader
     
    #74     May 11, 2025
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  5. I thought stupid hit rock bottom but you dug deeper with a whole logrrhea of opinion and ignorance.
     
    #75     May 11, 2025
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