Urgent, need help, unique situation, seeking prop shop

Discussion in 'Prop Firms' started by calhawk01, Jul 18, 2014.

  1. arna

    arna

    He can always open a branch agreement and let you trade in his group. Easiest way.
     
    #11     Jul 19, 2014
  2. can you please elaborate? i'm sure requirements for these vary from company to company but is there a standardized requirement?

    just out of curiosity, how big of a crime is it if i trade on his behalf remotely?
     
    #12     Jul 20, 2014
  3. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    It's a federal crime. You will be charged with money laundering. Federal courts...federal prisons. Oh and your firm will be shut down. And then they will sue you and your investor. So yeah....don't do it.
     
    #13     Jul 20, 2014
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  4. +1 to what mav said first.
    just open a retail account with any broker and appoint yourself trading manager.
    much easier - minimum capital required is 10kUSD or such.
     
    #14     Jul 20, 2014
  5. You can try Interactive Brokers. You can set up Advisor,broker,proprietary trading groups, hedge funds,etc. And you can set up accounts in which you can trade someone elses account. Check theis web site out and give them a call.
     
    #15     Jul 20, 2014
  6. dealmaker

    dealmaker

    No, props will not allow you to trade another person's account...Your best bet is IB...
     
    #16     Jul 20, 2014
  7. right. and i agree with the IB option as well. But I wanted to leverage the prop capital. thats the issue. will have to call up some shops to inquire about their branch agreement. anyone has any experience in that department?
     
    #17     Jul 21, 2014
  8. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    Prop firms cannot LEGALLY allow you to trade someone else's capital....PERIOD. You need to establish an entity. I ran the office of a regional Chicago prop firm for 6 years and put several of these agreements together.
     
    #18     Jul 21, 2014
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  9. Mirkou

    Mirkou

    money laundering = changing the owner of the money = non legal.

    Giving money to a company (with different owner structure) = changing owner of the money = possible money laundering.

    If money stays in the hand of the money owner (= investor, and you just get trader) there is no legal problem.

    Just you have to talk to the indivudal prop firm, there are firms which accept 3rd party trader (why not).
     
    #19     Jul 21, 2014
  10. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    This is 100% false. For one, prop accounts are NOT individual accounts. The money is NOT in anyone's name. And there in lies the rub. THIS is why prop firms don't allow it. He needs to set up an entity and that entity needs to become a member of the prop firm. How he structures that entity is his business. But that entity will become a class B member of the prop firm.
     
    #20     Jul 21, 2014
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