US China Relations Through Another Lense

Discussion in 'Politics' started by VicBee, Dec 14, 2022.

  1. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    oh, ok, I guess China was no threat to HK nor Uighurs and the west was just "hyping it up". Their rhetoric towards Taiwan and neighbor's ships is just make belief. I also don't see anyone in DC pushing for war vs. China short of Trump who's out.
     
    #21     Dec 14, 2022
  2. themickey

    themickey

    Taiwan tracks 11 Chinese military aircraft, 7 naval ships around country
    Taiwan sent aircraft, naval ships, and used land-based missiles to monitor PLA aircraft and vessels

    By Eric Chang, Taiwan News, Staff Writer 2022/12/14
    https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4749813

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    Chinese Y-8 RECCE plane. (MND photo)

    TAIPEI (Taiwan News) — The Ministry of National Defense (MND) tracked 11 Chinese military aircraft and seven naval vessels around Taiwan between 6 a.m. on Tuesday (Dec. 13) and 6 a.m. on Wednesday (Dec. 14).

    Of the 11 People’s Liberation Army (PLA) aircraft, one Shaanxi Y-8 reconnaissance plane was monitored in the southwest corner of Taiwan’s air defense identification zone (ADIZ), according to the MND. No PLA aircraft crossed the Taiwan Strait median line during this time.

    In response, Taiwan sent aircraft, naval ships, and used land-based missile systems to monitor the PLA aircraft and vessels.

    So far this month, Beijing has sent 231 military aircraft and 57 naval ships around Taiwan. Since September 2020, China has increased its use of gray zone tactics by routinely sending aircraft into Taiwan’s ADIZ.
     
    #22     Dec 14, 2022
  3. mervyn

    mervyn

    HK was definitely a showcase for overthrow the government. Luckily Beijing didn’t send in army men tanks that I expected them to. They would rather crash the uprisings than have HK go independent, that is just history.
     
    #23     Dec 14, 2022
  4. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    lol, no it wasn't. While HK'ers for sure would rather be a democracy, their beef was w/China not respecting the HK/China agreement and China jumping the gun on HK's sovereignty a few years ahead of time. Of course no one in the GQP spoke up and I'd say Trump was more than happy to see it.
     
    #24     Dec 14, 2022
  5. Mercor

    Mercor

    China made the deal with the UK
    It would be UK who would need to lead the diplomatic case
     
    #25     Dec 14, 2022
  6. mervyn

    mervyn

    There was a video journalist guy Michael Yon covering HK protests, definitely looked like J6 riots but more bloods on the street. I followed him on YouTube and on his John Batchelor podcasts at that time. He is obviously on the side of protests but in his livestream videos the young people beating bystanders with steel rods, that was crazy things. The police mostly were charging and rounding up youngsters in groups.
     
    #26     Dec 14, 2022
  7. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    #27     Dec 14, 2022
  8. Mercor

    Mercor

    #28     Dec 14, 2022
  9. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    Unlike the Sino–British Joint Declaration, the Basic Law drafting had major HK involvement. Or you could just read instead of asking to be spoon fed

    Shortly after the Sino–British Joint Declaration was signed, the National People's Congress set up the Basic Law Drafting Committee (BLDC) in 1985,
    setting the basis of the transfer of sovereignty in Hong Kong from the United Kingdom to China.[6]: 444  The committee was responsible for writing the draft Basic Law. In June 1985, the Standing Committee of the National People's Congress (NPCSC) approved the membership of the BLDC, which consisted of 36 members from China and 23 members from Hong Kong,[6]: 444  chaired by Chinese diplomat Ji Pengfei. Twelve of the 23 members from Hong Kong were connected to the city's business and industrial sectors.[7]: 11 [6]: 444 

    A Basic Law Consultative Committee (BLCC) consisting of Hong Kong community leaders was also established in 1985 to collect views in Hong Kong on the draft law.
    Similar to the BLDC, the BLC
     
    #29     Dec 14, 2022
  10. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    there's a lot of "video journalists" painting narratives for Russia in the UA conflict too
     
    #30     Dec 14, 2022