Who really won the war on terror ?

Seems one of the biggest winners of the war on terror was the entrenchment of a huge surveillance state and totalitarian measures in western societies .

RICHENDOLLAR: Now That We’re Out Of Afghanistan, Do We Really Need The Massive Surveillance State We Created After 9/11? | The Daily Caller

Beware state surveillance of your lives – governments can change for the worse | John Naughton | The Guardian

 

Let me say this---It wasn't Barack Hussein or Slow Joe.

 

Correction on the title should read .. "Who really won in the war on terror " .

 

Correction of your correction should read: "Who really won in the wars of terror"

Way more innocent civilians killed by US 'collateral damage' than killed on 9/11.

 

by possibly a factor of 1000.

and many of the relatives of those killed will harbor ill will towards America making them ripe for recruitment.

the islamophobia the war on terror has fostered has pushed many Muslims residing in western countries who would otherwise be productive members to the fringe where they are ripe for recruitment as well.

 

and the military industrial complex.

 

Islamophobia, while natural to the small number of Christian fascists, has been deliberately inflated across the general population. Among so many other culture "war" divisions, it softens (or at least distracts) resistance to military involvement abroad, involvement intended to secure for Capitalism the free flow of resources and continuation of profit to shareholders, aka the 1%.

 

I am not a fan of the argument that we can never kill terrorists because their families will get pissed and become terrorists too...

 

Not talking about killing terrorists. Talking about killing of innocents.

 

Q: Who won the war on terror?

A: That's easy. it was lost.