Will Russia invade Ukraine

Discussion in 'Economics' started by VicBee, Feb 14, 2022.

Will Russia invade Ukraine?

  1. Yes

    21 vote(s)
    36.8%
  2. No

    36 vote(s)
    63.2%
  1. userque

    userque

    My posts were a direct response and on-point to your posts.

    As far as the "op's" posts ... he seems slow. I wouldn't waste time responding more than one sentence to his posts...if that.
     
    #31     Feb 15, 2022
  2. Part of my past training was as a Soviet-East Europe specialist, and I travelled very extensively in that region long ago. My strongest sense about all of the recent headlines was that NOTHING was as it appeared to be, so often the case in that region. I also felt that the current administration has some puzzling ways of enganging in both communication and diplomacy, at times leaning towards hysteria. Thus during that huge VIX spike to end last week I bought a cheap OTM UVXY put. I see this AM that the calculated risk paid off and I will likely exit later today.
     
    #32     Feb 15, 2022
  3. VicBee

    VicBee

    This is what I posted in another thread:

    Some say, why offend Russia? Why not agree to no NATO on its border?

    The answer is simple. Because Russia isn't trying to protect Russians from western democracy, it's trying to protect its oligarchy of military brass and industrial barons, Russia's 1% who stand to lose their power when Russia finally joins the rest of civilized nations.

    Let's remember, the Cold War was supposed to be an ideological conflict between communism and capitalism. Yet, we soon found out that Russia simply replaced one political dictatorship with another. It's the only way Russia has ever been governed in its history so it isn't surprising to hear the same assertive, top to bottom discourse in their society.
    The novelty there comes from those who seek to establish a democracy, the possibility that various views can be expressed without violence, that the ballot box determines who leads, and that losers abide by the majority vote. It's not an easy proposition, even in a country like the US which has always known democracy.
    Russia's only enemy is itself, controlled by a small oligarchy that will do whatever it takes to stay in power, raising the usual nationalistic pride to cover up the true extent of their pilferage.
    The US and Europe are making it clear that Putin has no domination rights over its border nations. Putin isn't crazy. He isn't going to risk a pointless war that will sanction Russia's elites because he knows that at the end of the day, neither the US nor Europe care about Ukraine which is just a pretext to squeeze Putin and probably make him pay dearly for his interference in US politics.
     
    #33     Feb 15, 2022
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  4. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    Maybe follow the chain/context then? I'm not responding to the OP; who knows, maybe you got the dude on ignore
     
    #34     Feb 15, 2022
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  5. userque

    userque

    Must be Trump supporters with such dumb ideas like this.

    Along the lines of:
    Why not get rid of all US nuclear weapons and just let Russia have them all?
     
    #35     Feb 15, 2022
  6. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    I think the "hysteria" is tactical one upmanship. It's calling Russia's bluff by giving the buildup an undeserved seriousness, even if understood to be posturing. Still, moving 130k troops and equipment is an expensive endeavor, even if a geopolitical chess move.
     
    Last edited: Feb 15, 2022
    #36     Feb 15, 2022
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  7. userque

    userque

    Not to a "dictator."
     
    #37     Feb 15, 2022
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  8. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    Russia gave democracy a try. A short one before this asshole came to power.

    nah, i've seen it spouted by lefties who think "American interventionism always bad"
     
    #38     Feb 15, 2022
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  9. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    He's opportunistic, he'd probably have invaded if POTUS had been neutered by the opposition like during Crimea.
     
    #39     Feb 15, 2022
  10. userque

    userque

    Agree.
     
    #40     Feb 15, 2022