Would you apply TA to anything but financial markets?

Discussion in 'Technical Analysis' started by cornix, Dec 1, 2015.

  1. Q3D

    Q3D

    I use technical analysis as it's liberally conceptualized to analyze my digestion on a daily basis.
     
    #11     Dec 1, 2015
  2. Stewie

    Stewie

    The problem with real estate is that each house is different. With stocks or futures, each share or contract is exactly the same. When I made my post, I assumed that each cell phone is the same since we are only talking about one model and that it doesn't matter who you buy it from, with price being the only factor. But in real estate, there are too many variables. Even if you want to say houses vs. condos, then you still got neighborhoods to consider, and different floors have different values, as do the different view from each side of the building. So when you talk about what someone is willing to pay for something, you can't aggregate all properties into one group as they are all different, unless stocks and futures which are all the same.
     
    #12     Dec 1, 2015
  3. Redneck

    Redneck

    That consideration however..., would be inaccurate when applied to the mkt / trading

    In the normal world - absolutely

    In our world - nope

    RN
     
    #13     Dec 1, 2015
  4. Stewie

    Stewie

    Can you elaborate on how supply/demand doesn't apply in the real world market?
     
    #14     Dec 1, 2015
  5. Redneck

    Redneck

    Few examples Sir

    hedging
    stop runs / head fakes (FBOs)
    bot trading (scalping)
    pairs trading

    Non of these are concerned with supply or demand - they are trades for purposes other than supply or demand - but all move price to various degrees (cent's / tics / pips / whatever)


    **And..., there are more - but who am I to ruin the quest (fun is in the journey)

    (figure out the **and - you will be surprised :) )


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    Supply / demand is one of those useless terms used in this business

    It makes folks appear knowledgeable - when in fact they are idiots
    It serves no useful purpose when trading
    It only known after the fact


    RN
     
    #15     Dec 1, 2015
  6. Stewie

    Stewie

    Excellent, thank-you. One could argue that during a stop run / FBO there is no demand to support price and hence it falls right through a perceived support level, so the support wasn't in fact where you thought it might be, but a few points lower. But I do admit that support and demand is too loose of a term to have practical application on its own.

    One could also argue that hedging, where you're only buying something as insurance against something else is still a form of demand. If everyone after all demands insurance, then this demand will be apparent in the price. Likewise, traders getting out of short positions does create demand, and if lots of shorts want/need to cover, then temporary demand will be there, and can often cause the price to rally, even if the general down trend has not yet finished.

    Perhaps its important to not focus too much on the "why", but just rather formulating a way to categorize if demand is actually there which is sufficient enough to initiate a long position or not. Of course though, thinking in terms of demand and supply now switches only to is there enough of a bounce here to initiate a long position.

    At any rate, its a shame you cannot share some more examples. You've mentioned the easy ones, but I suspect most could guess these. The fun part is actually when you get to learn something you didn't already know. :)
     
    #16     Dec 1, 2015
  7. Redneck

    Redneck

    Not that I can't - it's that I won't

    It there for all to see / figure out

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    Yup

    RN
     
    #17     Dec 1, 2015
  8. Stewie

    Stewie

    I promise not to trade FB if you tell me! ;)

    All kidding aside, thanks for your contribution RN.
     
    #18     Dec 1, 2015
  9. use a hybrid (or open-minded) approach -- you get into trouble when you use one way or method only. :confused:
     
    #19     Dec 2, 2015
  10. Redneck

    Redneck


    You Very Are Welcome Sir :)

    RN
     
    #20     Dec 2, 2015