Yawn....... Israel attacked by Hamas

Discussion in 'Politics' started by themickey, Oct 7, 2023.

  1. themickey

    themickey

    Israel government policy and their propaganda talking point.
    Smoke and mirrors.
     
  2. themickey

    themickey

    You and Israel repeatedly parroting this wont make it happen.
     
  3. themickey

    themickey

    Netanyahu says ‘no way’ Israel ends Gaza war until Hamas is defeated
    World May 13, 2025 1:28 PM EDT
    TEL AVIV, Israel (AP) — Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says there is “no way” Israel will halt its war in Gaza, even if a deal is reached to release more hostages.

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  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    At this point over 80% of the Jews who live in Israel state Hamas must be eliminated as a governing and militant entity in Gaza before there can be any permanent ceasefire. There is support for temporary ceasefires for hostage exchanges but no public support for allowing Hamas to remain in power in Gaza.

    Additionally nearly every single major political party in Israel agrees that the elimination of Hamas as a governing and militant entity in Gaza is a foundational point that is required before any type of permanent ceasefire can be put in place. This is not merely confined to right-wing political parties in Israel who are currently in power -- but is a point that will be carried forward by any future more moderate coalition governments.

    Hence this conflict will go on -- maybe with temporary ceasefires -- until Hamas is no longer the governing and militant entity in Gaza.
     
  5. themickey

    themickey

    Of course, Israel would be the world's best brainwashers.
     
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  6. themickey

    themickey

    It seems god gifted the Jews with talking bullshit from day 1.
     
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  7. Tuxan

    Tuxan

    So now we're just listing what 80% of people believe as if that's an argument? Cool. 80% of Americans believed Saddam had WMDs. 100% of Flat Earthers believe the horizon proves their point. Consensus doesn’t magic away bad policy, or bad rhetoric.

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  8. Tuxan

    Tuxan

    You are on to something there.
     
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  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Why are mainstream news organizations simply repeating messages from a proscribed terrorist organization and proclaiming it as factual. Ending up in a cycle where they regularly have to retract false statements.

    Study claims US news outlets served as 'megaphones' for Hamas in Gaza war
    Study paints harrowing picture of media narratives for humanitarian aid in Gaza
    https://www.foxnews.com/media/study-claims-us-news-outlets-served-megaphones-hamas-gaza-war

    A new study by the Network Contagion Research Institute (NCRI) alleges that major U.S. and European news outlets served as uncritical megaphones for Hamas-linked narratives during the war with Israel in Gaza, amplifying claims that ultimately undermined a U.S.-backed food relief operation while shielding the terrorist group from scrutiny.

    The 102-page report, titled "The 4th Estate Sale: How American and European Media Became an Uncritical Mouthpiece for a Designated Foreign Terror Organization" concludes that outlets including MSNBC, CNN, The Washington Post, and Reuters published or promoted unverified claims sourced from the Gaza Health Ministry without disclosing that it is controlled by Hamas, a U.S.-designated foreign terrorist organization.

    These narratives, according to the study, falsely blamed the U.S.-based Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF) for deadly incidents and fed conspiracy theories that spread across global media and social networks.

    "We need to audit the media," a senior researcher at NCRI and lead author of the study who wished to remain anonymous told Fox News Digital. "What we found is not just bias — it’s the laundering of information warfare. When a terrorist-linked health ministry makes a claim, and that claim becomes the basis for international headlines without independent verification or source transparency, that is not journalism. That is narrative laundering, and it puts real people at risk."

    Rev. Johnnie Moore, president of the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation, told Fox News Digital that the report validates what he and his team have been enduring on the ground since launching aid operations in early 2024.

    "On one level, I wasn’t surprised by the findings because I’ve been experiencing the effect of these lies for weeks," Moore said. "But — on the other hand — I was shocked by the sheer scale of it all. Let’s be clear: media outlets in the United States, the UK, and in continental Europe are literally doing the work of terrorists. They have become the default press secretaries for designated terrorist organizations. As absurd as that sounds, that’s exactly what has happened."

    According to GHF, the group has delivered over 70 million meals to Gazan civilians since May 2024, without a single aid truck being looted. The NCRI report cites this as a direct threat to Hamas’s control over Gaza’s traditional aid economy, which has long relied on systems that the terror group can exploit, divert and weaponize.

    "They write papers and letters and sign documents, and yet we’re doing it," GHF interim executive director John Acree said in response to NGO criticism. He implored those groups to "please, come. Come and help us."

    "We believe Hamas made over one billion dollars last year just from manipulating the system of aid managed by the United Nations and others," Moore said. "They take free food, then sell it. They hoard it for their fighters. They use it to recruit. So when we came in and disrupted that pipeline, Hamas saw us as a threat to their business model and their control."

    According to NCRI, "every time the GHF distributed aid, antisemitic and conspiratorial online narratives increased in intensity", including claims the group was feeding Palestinians drug-laced food. These spikes in disinformation, the report says, often coincided with milestones like new site openings or meal delivery totals, suggesting a coordinated effort to discredit the operation online.

    The study documents a pattern in which major media platforms published or aired claims that were later found to be incorrect, often without public correction or transparency.

    In one widely circulated example, CNN posted on June 1, 2025: "At least 31 Palestinians were killed amid chaotic scenes near an aid site run by a US-backed private foundation in Gaza, according to the Palestinian Ministry of Health."

    The NCRI's study had this to say about their report: "CNN blamed the IDF and the US-backed GHF for the deaths of over 30 civilians based solely on the Hamas Health Ministry’s word. The CNN tweet, which went viral and garnered nearly half a million views, did not include context about the health ministry’s terror ties, nor did it indicate the unverified nature of the claim beyond stating that CNN could not independently confirm the details."

    The report further notes: "CNN later updated its story, citing an Israeli denial and including more context, but the viral post remained unchanged. This illustrates the speed at which misleading narratives can spread — and the slow, often inadequate pace of correction."

    In response to Fox News Digital’s inquiry, CNN stated: "There was never any doubt that the aid center in question was a GHF aid site, and we did not ‘associate the GHF’ with the incident. The shootings occurred along the approach route to the aid distribution site, approximately 800 meters from it, and involved people walking there to get aid — a point which no one disputes."

    CNN added that their reporting relied on multiple sources, including eyewitnesses and background confirmation from an Israeli official, and that the story was labeled as developing and updated according to standard editorial practices.

    In its later updates, CNN stated that it "cannot independently verify who was responsible for the shooting," noting that the international media does not have access to Gaza.

    CNN later added Israel’s denial to its full story, quoting the IDF: "Findings from an initial inquiry indicate that the IDF did not fire at civilians while they were near or within the humanitarian aid distribution site and that reports to this effect are false." However, this denial was not included in CNN’s original viral tweet, which only cited the Gaza Health Ministry. It appeared later in the same thread and was eventually added to the full article.

    In an exclusive statement to Fox News Digital, the IDF confirmed that it allows the U.S.-based Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF) to operate independently within distribution zones, adding that forces have implemented safety upgrades including fencing, signage, and new access routes to minimize friction with civilians.

    The NCRI report also singles out MSNBC last month for amplifying unverified claims: "MSNBC aired a segment alleging that Israeli forces fired on a crowd near a food distribution site affiliated with GHF, citing the Gaza Health Ministry’s claims. At no point in the segment was the health ministry identified as being run by Hamas."

    The clip that aired on MSNBC’s "Morning Joe" remains online with "clarification," not correction, added in the description. NCRI analysts noted that "MSNBC aired no comparable editorial scrutiny of the Hamas-run ministry." MSNBC later referenced the broader controversy in a follow-up segment the next morning on June 20.

    NCRI also flagged a Reuters report as an example of misidentification in headline summaries. The report included references to an unnamed private foundation, which NCRI claims contributed to "confusion, misattribution, and reputational harm."

    (Much more at above url including Tweets, graphs and pictures)
     
  10. themickey

    themickey

    Are you really stupid enough to think you can fool everyone with your ongoing never ending bs?
    @gwb-trading a journalistic Israel troll.

    Network Contagion Research Institute (NCRI)
    In this episode, we discuss the Network Contagion Research Institute (NCRI) with the veteran of this podcast Amira Jarmakani, who is the ICSZ collective member and Professor of Women’s, Gender, and Sexuality studies at San Diego State University. NCRI is an important case study because by presenting itself as a research institute interested in studying false and hateful narratives online, NCRI often flies under the radar as a Zionist organization. But in this conversation, Amira Jarmakani debunks NCRI’s claims that it’s a small, neutral, not-for-profit institution and clarifies that it is actually an online surveillance organization, closely tied with major US policy-making institutions, and a purveyor of the war on terror. We look at the work of NCRI and specifically the reports they produce that demonize leftist organizing, conflate anti-Zionism with antisemitism, attack BDS, and label Palestine solidarity organizing as terrorism.

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    Formation 2018; 7 years ago
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    Joel Finkelstein is a Jew, well surprise surprise....

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