Yawn....... Israel attacked by Hamas

Discussion in 'Politics' started by themickey, Oct 7, 2023.

  1. Tuxan

    Tuxan

    I’ve argued that Hamas has served, knowingly or not, as a tool for those with a deeper, darker objective: the ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Its provocations offer Israel the perfect pretext to escalate, to frame every operation as self-defense, and to, strip sympathy from the Palestinian cause by associating it with violence and fanaticism.

    It’s not about being pro-Hamas or anti-Israel. It’s about recognizing that some actors benefit enormously from Hamas' existence. The more erratic or militant Hamas appears, the easier it becomes to justify siege, dispossession, and annihilation.

    That’s why I won’t waste time entertaining Israel’s theatrical demands for Hamas to disarm. Disarmament means nothing when your existence is the real target. So long as the project of ethnic cleansing continues, Israel will simply nurture the conditions, and as needed, the actors for a “new Hamas” to emerge.
     
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  2. themickey

    themickey

    I don't know anyone on ET who is pro Hamas.
    But I do know of an American troll on ET who is pro Jewish and constantly uses social media to twist the truth.
     
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  3. Mercor

    Mercor

    New York Times admits using misleading cover photo of emaciated Gaza child


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  4. Tuxan

    Tuxan

    Well that makes scores of kids we have seen famine-actors? It's the same tactics as holocaust deniers.

    It's harder to feed a child with cerebral palsy but his condition is clearly a lot worse that it would otherwise be. You won't find a shortage of other photos.

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    We know with certainty that nowhere near enough food and water is entering Gaza to meet the population’s needs. Even taking into account any emergency stockpiles that Hamas or other groups may have controlled and distributed, those have long since been depleted.
     
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  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Let’s read what the article stated:

    France, which co-chaired the conference with Saudi Arabia, called the declaration "both historic and unprecedented."

    "For the first time, Arab countries and those in the Middle East condemn Hamas, condemn October 7, call for the disarmament of Hamas, call for its exclusion from Palestinian governance, and clearly express their intention to normalize relations with Israel in the future," said French Foreign Minister Jean-Noel Barrot.
     
  6. Tuxan

    Tuxan

    You really have zero capacity to hear the unsaid.

    Many Arab states were never pro-Hamas, so to imply that they’ve suddenly “turned” is an oversimplification.
    What is unprecedented (with a small u) is the unified, formal, and public call for Hamas’s disarmament, colored by the fact that Egypt considers Hamas an enemy, Sisi openly despises them, Saudi rejects the Muslim Brotherhood entirely, and Qatar has quietly realigned with Riyadh after years of divergence.

    So Barrot wasn’t wrong, but he was strategically presenting it as a watershed to emphasize diplomatic momentum. However... It's not what you think.

    Oh, and I found your hat. Five minutes at a time.
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  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Let’s take a look at some more coverage. Notice the words “first time”.

    Arab nations for first time pressure Hamas to disarm, relinquish power in Gaza
    https://www.foxnews.com/world/arab-nations-first-time-pressure-hamas-disarm-relinquish-power-gaza
     
  8. Tuxan

    Tuxan

    Trees, forest. @themickey understands the core of my argument, whether or not he agrees with it. You, on the other hand, seem determined to miss the point, either out of intellectual limitation or deliberate provocation.
     
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  9. themickey

    themickey

    @gwb-trading mission is to troll this thread with nonsense to distract attention away from Israeli's attrocities.
    You'll notice how obvious that is when he accuses those posters who are anti the Palestinian violence, @gwb-trading calls them Hamas supporters.
    He's not alone though, this is the theme coming out from Israeli media, where Israel is the victim and Palestinians need annihilating.
    Pro Palestinians (pro life) are then labeled antisimetic and pro Hamas.

    As Tuxan pointed out, Hamas if it wasn't manufactured by Israel, it would be manufactured.
    @gwb-trading can't see this because he doesn't want to see it, so instead trolls this thread with distractions.
     
  10. themickey

    themickey

    Another problem many fall into including @gwb-trading, Israel is seen as pro God, therefore whatever they do, you should not and cannot fault it.
     
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