Yawn....... Israel attacked by Hamas

Discussion in 'Politics' started by themickey, Oct 7, 2023.

  1. themickey

    themickey

    .....Announcing the plan at a news conference with settler organisation Yesha Council Chairman Israel Ganz and Maale Adumim Mayor Guy Yifrach, Smotrich said the land had been given to the Jews by God.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckgdzxpkdd7o
     
  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading


    Ahhh... look... @themickey is upset --- spewing multiple replies to my post.

    So you don't like it when someone responds to you in the same manner that you regularly treat others in the forum. So Sad. Have you given consideration to stop rudely calling others in the forum trolls, paid shills and all sorts of names when you don't like their perspectives --- and engaging them in meaningful discussion instead.

    Yet you spend nearly all of your time on ET pouring hate on Jews and Christians. Even using leading hate sites as the source for your criticisms.

    It's long overdue for you to think about reforming your own behavior on ET.
     
  3. themickey

    themickey

    Here's the religious nutter who can't spell the word "shit" in case it offends God but goes on a rant, like Trump whom he hates about all sorts of stupid nonsense as per above post.
    You're a weirdo!
     
  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Let's catch up with Hamas Sesame Street...

    How Hamas turned kids into terrorists with TV show featuring jihadi mouse, bloodthirsty bunny
    https://nypost.com/2025/08/13/world...ow-featuring-jihadi-mouse-bloodthirsty-bunny/

    American kids may have grown up with Mr. Rogers telling them, “You are special just the way you are,” but for a child in Gaza there was Farfour—a plushy, genocidal TV mouse screaming “Kill! Kill! Kill!”

    Farfour, a costumed Mickey Mouse knockoff, was co-host of a kid’s program called “Tomorrow’s Pioneers” which aired on Hamas-affiliated television station Al-Aqsa TV from April 2007 to October 2009.

    For anyone wondering how the ideologically-crazed fanatical fighters of Hamas came to be, the show offers some answers.

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    Farfour, a homicidal Mickey Mouse ripoff who advocated martyrdom and Islamic world domination, was murdered on air by IDF soldiers in a skit.

    Billed as educational programming to teach Islamic values to schoolchildren — much like a “Sesame Street” or “Barney & Friends” for the Middle East — “Tomorrow’s Pioneers” was a colorful, sing-song blood orgy celebrating Jew hatred and martyrdom.

    The kids who grew up watching it are now fighting age men — like those who carried out the October 7 massacre of nearly 1,200 Israelis and abducted 251 hostages.

    On the show, Farfour promised the kids of Gaza that together they’d oversee Islamic world domination and liberate Jerusalem from the “murderers.” He mimicked grenade-throwing and shooting an AK-47.

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    Nahoul, a killer bee, preached to the school kids: “We will liberate Al-Aqsa from the filth of the criminal Jews,” referring to the fictional town where the characters lived.

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    Co-host Saraa Barhoum chats with Assoud the bunny, who promises kids, “I will finish off the Jews and eat them.”

    Mia Bloom, professor of communication and Middle East studies at Georgia State University, remembers “Tomorrow’s Pioneers” well from her research into terror tactics.

    “It’s a constant stream of horrific propaganda that is almost impossible for a child to break out of. And so the kids grow up thinking that every Israeli should be killed because every Israeli is bad and evil,” she told the Post.

    The show’s co-host, Gaza child star Saraa Barhoum — around 10 years old when the show first aired and the daughter of a university professor mother and a Hamas spokesman father — said in a 2007 interview she wanted to be either a doctor or a martyr when she grew up.

    She also launched a singing career, recording pop songs with lyrics like, “raise your sail for the sailors, and let your lighthouse illuminate the sea of blood.”

    “There’s a concept in criminology called a deviant peer. If I’m a recruiter—if I’m trying to get kids—I’m not going to use a 75-year-old man. I’m going to use a cool kid who’s maybe a few years older,” Bloom says.

    “Unfortunately, it’s a common thing that happens within the child abuse space.”

    Disney, notorious for swooping in on copyright infringement, was aware of Farfour’s Mickey Mouse likeness but chose to remain silent. They didn’t have to for long: the network murdered Farfour on air during the first season. In the scene, the terror Mouse is being interrogated by IDF soldiers who beat him to death after he refuses to hand over documents.

    “[Hamas’s] argument would be: ‘These kids are already traumatized — this kid doesn’t have a house, lost a sibling — the trauma is already there and the trauma is all around them.’

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    The messages of “Tomorrow’s Pioneers” were reinforced relentlessly in Gaza society, through textbooks, news programs, and magazines.

    “By traumatizing the children through the ‘Pioneers’ show, Hamas basically controlled the narrative and they could direct the trauma, instead of having this vague generalized trauma across society,” Bloom, author of the book “Small Arms: Children and Terrorism” said.

    On the show, Farfour was replaced by a bloodthirsty bumblebee with a squeaky voice named Nahoul, who preached to the kiddos: “We will liberate Al-Aqsa from the filth of the criminal Jews,” referring to the fictional town where the characters lived, and “revenge upon the enemies of God, the murderers of the prophets.”

    In season two, Nahoul gets sick. The Israeli authorities won’t issue him a travel permit to receive medical treatment in Egypt and he dies. Nahoul is replaced by his rabbit brother, Assoud, a mangy Bugs Bunny knockoff, who tells the tykes at home in one episode: “A rabbit is a term for a bad person and coward. And I, Assoud, will finish off the Jews and eat them.”

    In another episode Assoud is tempted by Satan to steal money from his father and sentenced to have his hand cut off, “as the Prophet Mohammed commanded.” Assoud later dies in an Israeli strike and is replaced by a bear.

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    In one episode, Palestinian children joined in for a sing along in-studio welcoming their own death.

    In another episode, children were invited into the studio to tell the hosts of their wish to die as martyrs, and then sing a song about it.

    “This kind of layered trauma that you’re deliberately exposing young Palestinian children to was not just a form of child abuse, but a long-term manipulation,” Bloom says.

    “It relates to October 7th. To have those resources and instead of making things better, you’ve just made things so much worse.”

    While little information is publicly known about the estimated 3,000 Hamas fighters who conducted the Oct. 7 slaughter, ages 16-35 are considered “fighting age” for men—meaning many of those combatants grew up watching their favorite plushy woodland creatures get executed by Jews on afterschool television.

    “It’s not just the ‘Pioneers’ TV show. It was amplified and reinforced by the textbooks that the children would read in school that demonized Jews and basically referred to Jews as apes and pigs and other dirty animals,” Bloom says.

    A 2008 analysis of Palestinian schoolbooks found a passage comparing Jews to “invading snakes.” In popular media, a late 1990s Palestinian magazine article explained that Jews are the actual sons of apes and, due to the shame felt by this, the “Jewish ape Darwin” invented the theory of evolution and applied it to all humans.

    Bloom, who has studied genocide, extremist movements, and child soldiers across the world, says it reminds her of the Taliban and ISIS—both of whom held public beheadings and required children of the community to attend.

    “It’s not exactly the same because killing Farfour was fake. But it’s this idea of exposing children to obscene levels of violence. And it creates a preparedness to justify violence and to choose violence over other options.”

    (Article has more pictures and video)
     
  5. themickey

    themickey

    Troll pest is back in the hope of distracting from Israel's bad behaviour of land stealing "in the name of God".
     
  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    So I guess you are simply going to continue being a turd in the punch bowl rather than modifying your behavior.

     
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Last month, the 22 nation Arab league stated in a written declaration that Hamas must disarm and end its rule in Gaza. The leaders of Arab nations described this move as unprecedented.

    Let's take a closer look at the post-war vision of the Arab nations and the entire situation in general.


    As Israel threatens to occupy Gaza, Arab regimes have another plan
    New details emerged this week as postwar vision gains momentum
    https://inews.co.uk/news/world/arab-plan-gaza-war-israel-egypt-3860816?ito=smart-news

    As Israel prepares a new offensive to occupy Gaza City, Arab regimes are pressing ahead with an alternative plan for the beleaguered enclave, involving a change in government, security measures, and reconstruction.

    The 22-nation Arab League first floated a blueprint for ending the war and rebuilding Gaza at an emergency summit in March, in response to Donald Trump’s proposal to “clean out” Palestinian residents and turn the Strip into a beach resort.

    The League went further last month with the New York Declaration, backed by the UK and EU, which called for Hamas to cede governance in Gaza and disarm, to be replaced by a Palestinian-led civilian government and an international peacekeeping force.

    Signatories said this would unlock a $53bn (£39bn) reconstruction fund for the devastated territory, lead to new talks on a “political horizon” for resolving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict through a two-state solution, and further Israel-Arab normalisation deals.

    A recently retired British diplomat with a Middle East focus said the unified statement, with its commitment to sidelining Hamas, was unprecedented and created a window of opportunity.

    “We have never seen that before,” they said, “The statement would have gone against some strong supporters of Hamas and the Palestinian resistance… Getting them all to sign up to it publicly was very important. The question is, what can we make of this?”

    While Benjamin Netanyahu’s Government has broken off talks with Hamas and committed to occupying Gaza – which aid groups say would involve mass expulsions and worsen the humanitarian crisis – Arab mediators are shuttling between Israeli and Palestinian factions in the hope of agreeing on a formula for a ceasefire, and preparing for the day after.

    This week, Egypt announced that together with Jordan it would begin training 5,000 Palestinian police officers to be deployed in post-war Gaza, and 15 local administrators had been agreed to manage different areas of the Strip in consultation with the Palestinian Authority (PA), which exercises limited self-government in the occupied West Bank.

    The Arab League had previously proposed that the UN play a security role. Arab nations who have normalised relations with Israel, such as the United Arab Emirates, have said they could supply troops for a multi-national force.

    Arab powers have reportedly also agreed on an overall governor for Gaza, Canada-based Palestinian businessman Samir Halilah, who is said to have US endorsement.

    Halilah confirmed that he expects to lead a “transitional governing council” with the support of Egypt and Saudi Arabia in an interview with Palestinian news agency Ma’an this week.

    The businessman added that international pressure could produce a comprehensive deal in the coming weeks covering Israel’s withdrawal from Gaza, the decommissioning of Hamas, reconstruction, and a new Arab-Palestinian security force.

    Spokespeople for Egypt and Saudi Arabia declined to comment.

    Daoud Kuttab, a veteran Palestinian journalist based in Jordan who has reported on Halilah’s career, described him as “politically smart and flexible…he is not affiliated (to any Palestinian faction), he is much closer to business.”

    Halilah’s appointment has support from PA President Mahmoud Abbas, said Kuttab, with the veteran leader willing to play a background role to secure a deal.

    Netanyahu has said the next leadership of Gaza will be “non-Israeli” but also ruled out the PA taking charge, as well as Hamas remaining in power.

    Leaders of the militant group, which has ruled Gaza since 2007, say they are willing to cede control of the Strip.

    “We are ready today, if not yesterday, to step back from governance to hand it over to a body, a government, a committee, that is ready to run the Gaza Strip,” senior Hamas official Bassem Naim said in February.

    This week, Egypt announced that together with Jordan it would begin training 5,000 Palestinian police officers to be deployed in post-war Gaza, and 15 local administrators had been agreed to manage different areas of the Strip in consultation with the Palestinian Authority (PA), which exercises limited self-government in the occupied West Bank.

    The Arab League had previously proposed that the UN play a security role. Arab nations who have normalised relations with Israel, such as the United Arab Emirates, have said they could supply troops for a multi-national force.

    Arab powers have reportedly also agreed on an overall governor for Gaza, Canada-based Palestinian businessman Samir Halilah, who is said to have US endorsement.

    Halilah confirmed that he expects to lead a “transitional governing council” with the support of Egypt and Saudi Arabia in an interview with Palestinian news agency Ma’an this week.

    The businessman added that international pressure could produce a comprehensive deal in the coming weeks covering Israel’s withdrawal from Gaza, the decommissioning of Hamas, reconstruction, and a new Arab-Palestinian security force.

    Spokespeople for Egypt and Saudi Arabia declined to comment.

    Daoud Kuttab, a veteran Palestinian journalist based in Jordan who has reported on Halilah’s career, described him as “politically smart and flexible…he is not affiliated (to any Palestinian faction), he is much closer to business.”

    Halilah’s appointment has support from PA President Mahmoud Abbas, said Kuttab, with the veteran leader willing to play a background role to secure a deal.

    Netanyahu has said the next leadership of Gaza will be “non-Israeli” but also ruled out the PA taking charge, as well as Hamas remaining in power.

    Leaders of the militant group, which has ruled Gaza since 2007, say they are willing to cede control of the Strip.

    “We are ready today, if not yesterday, to step back from governance to hand it over to a body, a government, a committee, that is ready to run the Gaza Strip,” senior Hamas official Bassem Naim said in February.

    Amos Yadlin – former head of Israel’s military intelligence directorate, and now a security consultant to the Israeli Government – described the plans as “important and realistic”.

    They could provide an off-ramp from a costly and damaging occupation of Gaza, he said.
    “I hope the mediators will recognise that this is the right plan and, with the necessary adjustments, present it as a ‘take it or leave it’ proposal to both sides,” he added.

    Professor Kobi Michael, a military analyst at the Israeli think tanks the Institute for National Security Studies and the Misgav Institute, suggested Israel could support the plans with some additional “terms and conditions.”

    Israel will not accept a peacekeeping role for the UN over its perceived failures in Gaza and Lebanon, he said, but could support a force composed of Arab nations it has close relations with, such as Egypt, Jordan, and Saudi Arabia.

    Michael further suggested that Israel issue an “ultimatum” to Hamas to disarm or face a potentially years-long Israeli occupation and military administration of Gaza.

    Arab Governments’ policy of engagement with Israel has been unpopular with their publics during the bombardment of Gaza, said Chris Doyle, head of the Council for Arab-British Understanding, a UK-based Middle East policy group.

    No Arab regime which had formal relations with Israel going into the war in Gaza has since cut them, despite the killing of more than 60,000 Palestinians and displacement of more than 90 per cent of the population.

    Egypt recently signed a record $35bn (£26bn) gas deal with an Israeli supplier, Doyle noted, suggesting this marked a policy of “business as usual”, with self-interest overriding solidarity with Palestinians.

    Arab leaders argue that engagement with Israel makes strategic sense in order to influence negotiations, said Doyle, which has left regional powers in a similar position to European governments as they seek to rein in Netanyahu’s Government while maintaining relations.

    Leaders in the Arab world and Europe have recognised the need for a “unified approach” to counteract the US, he said, which has continued to offer strong support for Israel throughout the war.

    The Europe-Arab alliance has been seen in the Saudi-French initiative that led to the New York Declaration, and most European governments voiced support for the Arab plan.

    Israel, too, could come to regard the plan as a convenient off-ramp as the war drags on, bringing rising costs, military exhaustion, and increasing opposition at home and abroad, said Doyle.

    “September will be an utterly crucial month,” he said, referring to plans by several governments, including the UK, to recognise a Palestinian state at the next UN General Assembly session, which could come as Israel mounts a new offensive in Gaza.

    But the influence of far-right extremists in Netanyahu’s Government may drown out the voices calling for a deal, even if it serves Israel’s interests and delivers war aims, from removing Hamas to the return of hostages, suggested Yossi Mekelberg, a Middle East analyst at Chatham House.

    He cited finance minister Bezalel Smotrich and national security minister Itamar Ben Gvir, who are both demanding permanent occupation and Israeli settlements in Gaza.

    “Ben Gvir and Smotrich are for now dictating what is possible and what is not,” he said.
     
  8. Tuxan

    Tuxan

    Its your behavior that is the issue and out of order.

    You are failing to recognise moral injury which isn’t “pouring hate,” it’s the result of witnessing or participating in acts that violate your own sense of right and wrong. It's what is causing an explosion in IDF suicides and attempts just now.

    I have no idea what @themickey's past is other than what he said, having being brought up with "Christian" BS and seeing through it. I can think of a dozen quotes but as the new episode of Foundation is out today:
    “Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived.”
    — Isaac Asimov

    To truly grasp moral injury, and how people carry it, you must have lived it. That means putting yourself at risk. Some wounds you can armor yourself against, and others cut through no matter how thick the shell. As Sha Po Lang puts it:
    “One who has never treated the dying … and one who has never eaten a mouthful of yellow sand … will see only the brilliant gleam of spears and armored horses when they think of battle.”
    You’ve got to feel the fight to understand the fracture.
     
  9. Tuxan

    Tuxan

    He keep mistaking rules and convention for morality itself. Rules can be bent to serve power, and convention can normalize harm. Doing “what you’re supposed to” has left him complicit in something indefensible.

    He's really boring however too, not to get carried away.
    "Pedantry prides herself on being wrong by rules; while common sense is contented to be right without them."
    — Charles Caleb Colton
     
  10. Tuxan

    Tuxan

    I'm very quotey today...

    How a lot a nice meme instead?

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