Zero Fee option brokers

Discussion in 'Options' started by misterkel, Jan 7, 2020.

  1. First Trade and a few others offer zero fees on stocks and options.
    Any experience with these brokers?

    I've been trading low cost options and the fees make a big difference, so I'm wondering if it makes sense to open and fund. If so, which zero fee broker is the best?

    Lastly, even if they don't charge fees, do you still have to pay something, or is it completely free?
     
  2. S2007S

    S2007S

    Robinhood and webull.
     
  3. korzes

    korzes

    dont you have something for europe ?
    webull is only for USA & china
    cheers
     
    Last edited: Jan 8, 2020
  4. S2007S

    S2007S


    Didnt know you were based out of EUROPE
     
  5. Amun Ra

    Amun Ra

    I use E-trade. Stocks are commission free and options cost .65 cents but goes down to 50 cents when you trade more than 30 times per month. They do charge fees for level 2 quotes though(I think like $10 or $15 per month) They also have 2 mobile platforms. One is the Etrade mobile app and the other is power etrade (but I prefer the regular one.)
     
  6. MM2020

    MM2020

    https://www.firstrade.com/

    0 fees and available for Europe, South America, etc.

    However, it lacks a desktop platform - you need to trade on the website. It has an app though, for Android and Apple.
     
  7. Robert Morse

    Robert Morse Sponsor

    My 2 cents on "free" vs a service like Lightspeed.
    The free offerings are mostly sending your order to an equity market maker. You typically lose the flexibility to enter certain order types like midpoint peg, hide part of my order, dark pools, VWAP/TWAP, pre, and post-market access etc. You ought to consider the market impact of your order sent to any market maker. Yes, you must consider that for any route, but why would they pay for these orders if they can’t make money on them. Sometimes they get to sell on the offer and buy on the bid. Sometimes they send your order to an ECN where they keep the rebate. I have no idea. I get many calls from prospective clients with online brokers with their free offering asking me if Lightspeed routes are faster because their orders are getting throttled. I have no metrics to share, but we are told we are much faster. Executions seem instantaneous when marketable. I place a lot of value on having the choice of where I send my order and how I want it placed, based on market conditions and the trading volume/market cap/volatility of that symbol. Speed of execution, choice of route, that is part of where our value is. Then there is the service and support of our trade desk and sales staff. That has value too. Free is never free. In fact, with all the talk of free equity trades, I find it interesting that at Lightspeed with our $4.50/Trade or $0.0045/share starting rate (with volume discounts later) has always been lower than most or all other brokers. And, if you choose the per trade rate and enter orders to add liquidity on ECNs that pay, you can get paid to trade with larger orders. E.g. Buy 5000 XYZ on ARCA adding. Cost $4.50, rebate $10.00 for a net credit of $5.50 (not including reg fees). I’m very interested to see what these online brokers will do in order to make up revenues. We have not even talked about our option rates where we have always been on the less expensive side and continue to be lower than most. Low rates are not new to us. Good software is not new to us. Good service and trade support is not new to us.
     
  8. ironchef

    ironchef

    Schwab is cheaper, 25 cents per contract to start.
     
  9. Can you assess how good are their fills?
     
  10. Amun Ra

    Amun Ra

    I'll never use Schwab. Back in '94 I wanted to open an account to trade futures. They would only let me open an account if I deposited $200k minimum and they only had 1 broker with a series 3 license in their office who would only show up on Tuesdays and Thursdays to take my orders. I think their commissions were on the high side too. Around $79 or $89 per round trade. When I left their office, I said I would never use them as a broker as long as I live with that bullshit they wanted to pull on me.
     
    #10     Jan 19, 2020