Economics about mass shooting

Discussion in 'Politics' started by OddTrader, Oct 6, 2017.

  1. Sharing the $771 million (medical bills Alone) by the top 20 politicians can be more than $38 million for each!

    Obviously there is a better way to save the money, plus lives!

     
    #11     Oct 6, 2017
  2. This stupid "stat" has been proven time and time again to be enormously skewed by INNER CITY BLACK ON BLACK SHOOTINGS.

    Where is all the snowflake outrage when a "Mandalay Bay" happens pretty much every month in Chicago?

    You liberals are all racists because you only want to take our guns when whitey gets killed by a psycho, but ignore the black on black slaughter every day in cities across the country
     
    #12     Oct 6, 2017
  3. #13     Oct 6, 2017
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  4. comagnum

    comagnum

    This comedian has has is the best gun violence solution of all times!



    One more just destroys the pro gun arguments.



    Part #2
     
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    #14     Oct 6, 2017
  5. 60% of gun related deaths in the U.S. are from suicides...more than homicides.
     
    #15     Oct 6, 2017
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  6. It is understandable to want to find an answer to the cause of innocent children and other people being killed. Too many people had no say, no chance in affecting the outcome when faced with an attacker with a gun.

    It is this way with other things in our lives. Such as motor vehicles and alcohol, to name a few. I included alcohol because a lot of violence and accidents have been caused by its use.

    Children and other passengers in an vehicle who die because of deliberate or negligent operation of their driver or the driver of another vehicle had no say in that outcome either.

    It comes down to responsible use of the item in question. Lives have been saved by the use of vehicles in getting people medical attention quickly, just as innocent lives have been saved by someone being able to defend themselves, and in some cases, their family with a gun. For those that abuse their privileges, they will be held accountable for their actions by laws already in place.

    It is hard to determine the optimal amount of regulation, but it seems to me it is hard to justify weapons of mass destruction being used for defensive purposes.

    The right to bear arms is in our constitutional DNA and should not be infringed. Especially, when an subjective criteria is used to determine who may have that right. Be wary of politicians and media sources who promote increasing gun ownership restrictions. The entity that is trying to take your rights away is not your friend. You may want to consider if they have an agenda and what the real reason why they want to get rid of as many gun owners as possible.
     
    #16     Oct 6, 2017
  7. comagnum

    comagnum

    60% of gun related deaths in the U.S. are from suicides...more than homicides.

    The USA is the extreme outlier in suicides by guns, accidental shootings, murders with guns, and mass shootings.

    For an alcoholic to get sober the firs step they make is to admit to themselves they have a problem. Other civilized nations are shocked by our gun violence, it's time we take step #1.

    My first day in Amsterdam a street performer had an audience of well over 1,000 from many different countries. He asked for an American to come up on the stage, this lady gets up there and he starts riffling through her purse frantically - then starts frisking her - he said "where's your gun, I need a gun for my act - all Americans carry guns!" everybody burst out laughing so hard. It sure made an impression on me.

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    Source: The American Journal of Medicine (2010)
     
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    #17     Oct 6, 2017
  8. JSOP

    JSOP

    In Texas maybe and if you are White. If you belong to any other race, you will still be charged.
     
    #18     Oct 6, 2017
  9. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    You are correct, many Americans refuse to acknowledge there is a problem and some use statistics ( badly at times ) to try to explain away the problem. While it may be true that the US is in a difficult situation due to the rapid proliferation of weapons, the only solution to a difficult situation is to improve it in practical, smaller steps. The current reaction of some to buy more guns is insanity.
     
    #19     Oct 7, 2017
  10. Thank you for the statistics. As we can see, the U.S. Has much higher death rates for homicides and suicides involving guns. I wonder how many of these deaths are caused by the "convenience" of guns. We spend lots of time watching violent T.V. Shows, movies, and electronic games. There is a lot of drug trade related gang violence as well.

    What is an "acceptable" amount of gun violence and what can be done about it? Personally, I see the relative performance of the US versus other countries as disappointing. However, in absolute terms, I'm ok with gun homocide rates of 5.3 per 100,000. Gun Homicide rates of 10 in 100,000 would be acceptable to me.

    I have never owned a gun, as I consider them noisy, heavy, expensive, and heavily regulated. There are likely more modern options available for self-defense, etc., which are likely to be adopted more quickly as gun ownership rights become increasingly restrictive. It may be the noise and relative ease of detection of these weapons that has kept the homocide rate where it is relative to what it might be if more modern substitutes were used. It is my personal opinion, developed through discussion with law enforcement officers is that they generally support public gun ownership rights.

    Less emphasis on violence as a form of entertainment in our media may help the US reduce its gun related deaths.

    I support my fellow Americans rights to gun ownership and am willing to take much more pain in the form of mass shootings.
     
    #20     Oct 7, 2017